NSRCA Voting Process

[tony at radiosouthrc.com]

Jerry:
The reason that it was done this way was to keep ANY indication of fraud from happening.  On of the candidates works for AMA.  Does it not then follow that AMA should not count the votes?  

If we are going to do it "right", then let's do it RIGHT!  Use a CPA (just like AMA does for it's own elections) and be done with it....

Personally, I thought it was a waste of $800, but I apparently was wrong in thinking this way.  


Tony Stillman
Radio South
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jerry Stebbins 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: NSRCA Voting Process


  AS, for your information the election has to be held in accordance with the NSRCA Bylaws. As initially published it was not being structured that way. So it had to be quickly brought into line with a strict interpretation of the Bylaws, especially since there were two contested positions.
   AMA has handled/counted Ballots on previous elections, is independent from NSRCA, and does not charge for them.Why this path with the accountant was chosen I do not know, except that Tony announced on this list on 18 November in two separate messages discussing the NSRCA voting process, that he was taking care of it that way. It had absolutely nothing to do with not trusting our current Secretary Maureen, since she was only responding to what/how she was told to do.
  Hope this clears this up, and people quit putting Maureen, or anyone else in the line of fire!
  Jerry

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Xwindflyer at aol.com 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:44 PM
    Subject: Re: NSRCA Voting Process


    Why not have the ballots in the KFactor? Every magazine has these little thingies somewhere in the pages, why not the KF? 

    The problem is getting the totals. It seems that you folks just went through a bunch of expense becauase you didn't trust the secretatyr to do an accurate count, so that expense will continue in the future. 
    AS

    In a message dated 12/15/2004 10:59:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, pbrine at uoguelph.ca writes:
      Unless 100% of the membership is online you will still have to send out ballots
      and tabulate.

      Paul

      Quoting rcaerobob at cox.net:

      > Which is a DANG good reason to go electronic, server/secure authentication
      > access voting for issues in the future.  It's just too easy to do now...and
      > too cheap to ignore.
      >
      > For the future, maybe????
      >
      > BOb p.
      > >
      > > From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com
      > > Date: 2004/12/15 Wed AM 10:02:12 EST
      > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
      > > Subject: Fwd: NSRCA Voting Process
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Thank you, that was my point. Plus our stamps to mail the ballots back,  (a
      > > hidden overall cost). The whole project cost could easily exceed $800.
      > >
      > > Let's make it count folks. PLEASE VOTE!!
      > >
      > > MattK
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:39:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
      > > mdunphy at avsia.com writes:
      > >
      > > Matt:
      > >
      > > The quote from the accounting firm was between $200 and $300. The fee  is
      > > contingent upon the number of ballots received to be tabulated.  The
      > charge by
      > > the publisher was $275 for printing, $100 for mailing, plus  postage.  So -
      > the
      > > total cost of getting the ballots out is $575-$675,  plus postage.  Very
      > > expensive for NSRCA.
      > >
      > > Maureen
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From:  _Rcmaster199 at aol.com_ (mailto:Rcmaster199 at aol.com)
      > > To: _discussion at nsrca.org_ (mailto:discussion at nsrca.org)
      > > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004  8:19 AM
      > > Subject: Re: NSRCA Voting  Process
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Maureen, so the costs are 300 for the ballot printing and  mailing and
      > > another 300 for the counting by the CPA. Is that  correct??
      > >
      > > Thanks
      > >
      > > Matt
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