Adjustable stab weight

Ed Miller edbon85 at charter.net
Wed Dec 15 07:36:15 AKST 2004


Lance,
I was like you, initially I didn't like the look of the small tabs on the 
bottom of the stab when the plane was turned over but I quickly got over 
that when I weighed the more common adjustable stab setups and seen some of 
the problems folks had with them. The tabs are back away from the leading 
edge of the stab so they are not visible when the plane is upright. The EMC2 
is a difficult plane to keep under 11 pounds, a few changes this winter and 
mine will go from 10 pounds 11 ounces down to 10 pounds 9 ounces and I have 
never heard or seen anyone build one that light that was durable and still 
had wheel pants on it. My switch harness and tank are too heavy and I have 
lighter, just as durable items going in. I have 2 more EMC kits, one will be 
a twin to the one I have now and the other will become a bipe with an OS 160 
or ???. Yes it is a 7 year old design but it flies better than I ever will 
and I like the looks of it.
Ed M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at comcast.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: Adjustable stab weight


> Ed,
> I've built this method and it works great and is really lighter than 
> anything.  I guess vanity gets me because of the plates, but it shouldn't. 
> Thanks for the reminder!
> --Lance
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ed Miller" <edbon85 at charter.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Adjustable stab weight
>
>
>> On my EMC the stab weights including the elevators are as follows;
>>
>>                Before Monokote         After Monokote, hinges installed 
>> and gap sealed with clear Ultracote ( Radio South hinges, 5 on each stab 
>> half ).
>> Left side    61gr ~ 2.2 oz                74gr ~ 2.6oz
>> Right side  68gr ~ 2.4oz                  81gr ~ 2.9oz
>>
>> This is a plug in stab. The adjustable part is Dick Hansons KISS method, 
>> a plywood laminated plate 5/32" thick and approximately 3/4" wide 
>> parallel to the stab tube through the fuse that sticks out past the fuse 
>> about 3/4" on each side. Hard points are installed in the stab over these 
>> "tabs" and a button head wood screw is used to retain the stab half from 
>> underneath. The ply plate is installed such that about 3/32" or so of 
>> shim is required to get stab 0 degrees to thrust line. Add or subtract 
>> shims to adjust the stab.Stabs but up against fiberglass fuse, no filet. 
>> Inside fuse a piece of 3/32" balsa about 2'" wide runs lengthwise from 
>> the rear fuse bulkhead to the tailpost on each side of fuse. the stab 
>> tube and stab adjustment/mounting plate runs through these 3/32" balsa 
>> fuse doublers. There is no part of the stab installed in the fuse. Very 
>> stiff, no stab wiggle side to side or up and down. I used PBG CF wing and 
>> stab tubes and Gator sleeves, originally I was going to use aluminum wing 
>> and stab tubes till I was convinced the CF would hold up.
>> Ed M.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 9:11 PM
>> Subject: RE: Adjustable stab weight
>>
>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> I typically see 4-1/2 ounces without the aluminum stab tube.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org on behalf of Bob Kane
>>> Sent: Fri 12/10/2004 5:41 PM
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Adjustable stab weight
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever weighed their adjustable horizontal
>>> stab before mounting it to the plane? I have almost
>>> finished making the stab of my Temptation project
>>> removable and adjustable using the technique described
>>> by Bob Noll in his "Perfect" series of tapes. My kit
>>> is the deluxe version, pre-sheeted stab and wings. The
>>> completed stab seems heavy, but there is a lot of
>>> hardware involved. I'm interested in the weight of
>>> both the halves and the center section including the
>>> tube, thanks.
>>>
>>> =====
>>> Bob Kane
>>> getterflash at yahoo.com
>>>
>>>
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