FW: Motion to adopt.

[Derek Koopowitz]

Just goes to show how some people have selected memory loss with regard to
the judge evaluation program... Please read the quoted lines that RVP quoted
below - Eric H. is VERY familiar with the judge selection process and was
instrumental in getting it through the board of directors on 12/10/2002.

Why is he questioning it now when he proposed its vote?  Oh I get it... It's
election time!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Van Putte [mailto:vanputte at nuc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:41 AM
To: officers at nsrca.org
Cc: Tony Stillman
Subject: Re: Motion to adopt.

[NSRCA Officers]
I second the motion.

As I explained at the Nats board meeting, Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian, Don
Ramsey and I have hammered out the skeleton of the judge evaluation program.
Here is an excerpt of the VP's column I submitted for publication in the
December K-Factor which did not get published. 
However, it will be in the January issue, unless there's another slipup.

"Two months ago I wrote that one topic that Tony Stillman would want to take
care of when he takes office as president will be to continue development of
a judge rating system for selection of judges for future F3A world
championships.

"Tony Stillman, Matt Kebabjian and I (with counsel from Don Ramsey) have
been working on a judge rating system to rank judges, based on their
performance in Nats and F3A Team Selections.  We are almost at the point of
making the results available.  Matt has built the computer program to
perform the evaluation and Tony has obtained the results of recent Nats and
F3A Team Selections and loaded them into the program.  The questions we are
currently wrestling with is how many competitions to include and how many
judging performances are required for a judge to be seriously considered to
represent the U.S. at world championships?  For example, should we use the
last three/four Nats and the last two/three Team Selections?  If we say,
three Nats and two Team Selections, how many times must a judge have judged?
Twice?  Three times?  If someone judged all five times, do we take the best
two/three performances?  We're still pondering all these questions.  The
objective of the whole process is to get more people involved and qualified
for WC judging, as well as get the evaluation procedure and results out in
the open so there is no appearance of a "good old boy" selection process."

Ron Van Putte


Henderson,Eric wrote:
 > [NSRCA Officers]
 >  NSRCA board,
 >               This is a motion to adopt an FAI world champions judge
 > nomination process that was explained at the July 2002 board on the NSRCA
> process to recommend FAI USA judges to the AMA.
 >
 > 	Tony Stillman proposed that we use scoring records to rate and rank
 > the FAI judging candidates. I think that this is by far the best way to
do  > things and is superior by far to what I do today. I just chose the
names of  > three people who I think can do the job. If you all approve the
rating idea  > in as a process then Tony and Don Ramsey can act on it
immediately to  > address the pressing need for our contribution.
 >
 > Tony, At my request sent me these words that I am using as the actual  >
motion..
 >
 > "The NSRCA will select three judges to submit to the AMA for them to
present  > to the FAI as judges for the calendar year.  The process of
selection of  > judges will be determined by the Judge Certification
Committee."
 >
 > Do I have a second?
 >
 > If this is seconded please vote by this Friday  >  > Regards,  >  > Eric.
 >
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