Tuned pipes for dummies....feedback sought???

Fletcher, Richard Richard.Fletcher at gs.com
Wed Aug 18 14:50:16 AKDT 2004


An excellent product for mounting pipes are Granite State Tune Pipe mounts.
The base is made of heavy duty nylon construction. They are similar to DB
mounts but are much more robust and use a stainless steel, thin hose clamp
instead of a tie rap. I did a Google search and cannot find this item or
Granite State, does anyone know if they have gone bankrupt? Fortunately I
have a few of these mounts in my shop. I think I would rather make a copy
out of maple then use a DB mount, I find them to be to flimsy.



Rich


   

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 Chris
 I use the ES pipe also along with the Central header.I use the Dave Brown
pipe mount,just the part the tie wrap goes through.Mount this to the frame
in 2 places with  6-32 screws and a fiber lock nuts. Around the pipe put a
tiewrap that is inside a piece of neopreme fuel tubing (big blue). Support
the pipe in 2 places, 2 inches from the stinger and 2 inches aft of the
entrance pipe on the big part of the pipe. The only problem I ever had was
the vibration ate 2 holes in the pipe where the plastic Dave Brown mount
rubbed the pipe. To fix this I use a piece of blue header tubing between the
pastic mount and the pipe. Do not worry about heat the carbon fiber pipe
does no get hot.It is barely warm after a flight. This works for me and it's
easy to work with,just cut ties and go to work.Replace with new ties in the
tubing.

 Hope this helps.

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
> Date: 2004/08/18 Wed PM 04:12:26 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Tuned pipes for dummies....feedback sought???
> 
> help????
> 
> I have a new Arresti III that will be using a YS 140 FZ and the new
coupler from Central with an (enclosed) ES carbon fiber pipe and the Hyde
ARIA mount.	Merle Hyde says the pipe needs to be pretty flexible in
mounting to avoid header breakage. He also warns to tighten the hyde mount
screws aggressively.
> 
> 	My thought was to mount a single clamp on the CG of the pipe with a 
> Dave Brown hush clamp pipe mount.  (O ring retention on a composite 
> clamp) I have used this mounting style very successfully on a Greve 
> pipe / Webra 145 combo, but have questions about the durability based 
> on what I hear about pipe heat increase when running a 4 stroke.
> 
> Can anyone tell me whether they have experience with the Dave Brown mount
and four stroke pipes?   Do carbon fiber pipes get hotter than aluminum
ones???  How do you typically retain a carbon fiber pipe without worrying
about pipe distortion?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Richard Strickland
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:36 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Dented pipe
> 
> 
> Depends where they are.  If not too far in from the charge end, a 
> mandrel 8-18" OAL from 3/8" steel round with about a 15 degree kink in 
> it 2" from the(to be) rounded end or so clamped in a vise works 
> reasonably well for wheedling them out--kind of like the paintless 
> dent removal guys use.  There are also sheet metal suckers--but I'm 
> not that familiar with them.  Or turn the dent toward the fuse--dents 
> do not affect performance detectably.
> 
> RS
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fletcher, Richard" <Richard.Fletcher at gs.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:53 PM
> Subject: Dented pipe
> 
> 
> > I just received my new OS 160 pipe and the gorillas at UPS were true 
> > to
> form
> > and stomped on it and it now has a couple of dents. Does anyone know 
> > how
> to
> > remove them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Rich
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