Omaha and the Vert. 8

[rcaerobob at cox.net]

Perhaps, Richard.  Depends on who's doing the doing, and who's doing the watching.  Last weekend, Lubbock, I was doing the watching of Art Wagner's version, and I have to say - frankly - one of them was perfect, and got the 10 it warranted.  He managed the circularity to the tangent point, and was perfectly knife edge transitioning AT the tangent point, with both circles the same size.  I could NOT discern a flat at the tangent, and he was ruddering VERY skillfully.

I think his "secret" may be to not fly it as a huge maneuver, and that permits better roll rate management, and less exposure to errors on the loops....he REALLY did these very well!!!

BOb P>
> 
> From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
> Date: 2004/08/10 Tue AM 10:57:03 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: Omaha and the Vert. 8
> 
> I think you guys have made my point--Most folks wouldn't know a good one if it bit 'em on the butt.
> 
> Richard
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Steven maxwell 
>   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:55 AM
>   Subject: Re: Omaha and the Vert. 8
> 
> 
>    From what I seen at the Nat's one one does this as it is supposed to be done even though I'm only an advanced pilot and even poor at that I have been doing the fai patterns for a 3 years now have tried this manuvuer many times even to the point of doing whole flights just trying this one manuvuer from what I seen all the contestants was doing a simple roll at the center and not incorporating into loops seems that minor downgrade for the roll and keep the geometry of loops right was the lesser of the two.
>    Steve Maxwell
> 
>   Richard Strickland <richard.s at allied-callaway.com> wrote:
>     Any FAI guys (gals) going to Omaha this weekend?  The Vert. 8 with 'integrated' half roll--Local judges vary on when the roll starts and stops.  If I start it up at the 45 degree point as shown in a judges guide; I'm having a hard time making it look natural.  If I come down just before the tangent, roll with the wings vert. at the tangent and let it fall slightly as the roll is completed, it looks better.  I'll keep working on it if we are truly supposed to start way up there--or is that just a REPRESENTATION to denote it's gotta start SOMEWHERE b4 the tangent?  To do it the way it's depicted--you are in effect catching the bottom of a knife edge loop and the nose would actually be pointed slightly positive to the horizon.  I haven't seen anyone really do it well around here with my limited exposure this year.
> 
>     Thanks,
>                  Richard
> 
> 

Bob Pastorello, El Reno, OK, USA
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