Judge Training /Contest Scoring

[jivey61 at bellsouth.net]

  Yeah,but Steve you are special.

  Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "spbyrum" <spbyrum at hiwaay.net>
> Date: 2004/04/21 Wed PM 08:08:02 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: RE: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> 
> You use more than fingers when you judge me!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of jivey61 at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:02 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> 
>  Keith
>  I count fingers.Five fingers is 7.5 etc
> 
>  Jim Ivey
> > 
> > From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
> > Date: 2004/04/21 Wed PM 05:26:21 EDT
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> > 
> > Here are a some thoughts about the 1/2 point deduction scoring device:
> > 
> > 1. I think it's a terrific idea to have a tool that would allow you to
> enter deductions each time you see a defect in a maneuver, however I
> think only having 1/2 point deductions on the device (or 1 pt for FAI)
> would not be adequate when maneuvers have many errors close together. I
> think you'd also need at least a 2 pt deduction button, a zero button,
> and maybe a 1 pt deduction button as well. I know this increases the
> difficulty in remembering which button to push, but I've judged some
> flights where the plane drifted in too close and three or more botched
> maneuvers were crammed together so quickly that I barely had time to
> write 4.5, 3, 3.5 on the score sheet, much less press a 1/2 pt button 38
> times.
> > 
> > 2.  I believe if we do have a way to click deduction buttons every
> time we see a defect in a flight, rather than trying to do it in our
> heads, as a rule we'll begin to see much lower scores and we'll see the
> gap between the best fliers and the weaker fliers widen. This of course
> is a good thing as it more accurately reflects our flight performance. 
> > 
> > 3. Even though I think this would be a wonderful system, I think it's
> going to be difficult to make it work correctly so judges don't
> inadvertently enter a score they didn't intend to enter, or get off by
> one maneuver and enter an entire list of scores in the wrong spot. After
> the fact it will be very difficult to figure out which maneuver was
> skipped or entered twice.
> > 
> > 4. It may work well to have a device like baseball umpires use where
> they hold it in their hand and squeeze different buttons for
> balls/strikes/outs. 
> > 
> > Keith Black
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Tony Stillman 
> >   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> >   Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 3:02 PM
> >   Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> > 
> > 
> >   Steve:
> > 
> >   Yes, that is the final system that we had decided on before we ran
> out of money!  
> > 
> >   This would work very well, but you still have to get judges trained
> to use it properly.  Of course, it would have to be standardized so
> everyone could build their own that would interface with the proper
> electronic equipment.  
> > 
> > 
> >   Tony Stillman
> >   Radio South
> >   3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> >   Pensacola, FL 32505
> >   1-800-962-7802
> >   www.radiosouthrc.com
> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: Patternrules at aol.com 
> >     To: discussion at nsrca.org 
> >     Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 8:30 AM
> >     Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> > 
> > 
> >      Tony & Dean maybe your closer than you think, really if you think
> about it you only need a 2 button system as AMA uses 1/2 point
> increments say the right button every time you push it deducts 1/2 point
> the left button would be as an "enter" which would then go to the next
> maneuver, could even be programed to input the contestant # by the same
> method say push enter button 3 times for a new contestant, for FAI the
> program would detect that the pilot # is FAI and would use 1 point
> increments. 
> > 
> > 
> >     Steve Maxwell
> > 
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