Judge Training /Contest Scoring

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You use more than fingers when you judge me!

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Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring

 Keith
 I count fingers.Five fingers is 7.5 etc

 Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at comcast.net>
> Date: 2004/04/21 Wed PM 05:26:21 EDT
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> 
> Here are a some thoughts about the 1/2 point deduction scoring device:
> 
> 1. I think it's a terrific idea to have a tool that would allow you to
enter deductions each time you see a defect in a maneuver, however I
think only having 1/2 point deductions on the device (or 1 pt for FAI)
would not be adequate when maneuvers have many errors close together. I
think you'd also need at least a 2 pt deduction button, a zero button,
and maybe a 1 pt deduction button as well. I know this increases the
difficulty in remembering which button to push, but I've judged some
flights where the plane drifted in too close and three or more botched
maneuvers were crammed together so quickly that I barely had time to
write 4.5, 3, 3.5 on the score sheet, much less press a 1/2 pt button 38
times.
> 
> 2.  I believe if we do have a way to click deduction buttons every
time we see a defect in a flight, rather than trying to do it in our
heads, as a rule we'll begin to see much lower scores and we'll see the
gap between the best fliers and the weaker fliers widen. This of course
is a good thing as it more accurately reflects our flight performance. 
> 
> 3. Even though I think this would be a wonderful system, I think it's
going to be difficult to make it work correctly so judges don't
inadvertently enter a score they didn't intend to enter, or get off by
one maneuver and enter an entire list of scores in the wrong spot. After
the fact it will be very difficult to figure out which maneuver was
skipped or entered twice.
> 
> 4. It may work well to have a device like baseball umpires use where
they hold it in their hand and squeeze different buttons for
balls/strikes/outs. 
> 
> Keith Black
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Tony Stillman 
>   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>   Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 3:02 PM
>   Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> 
> 
>   Steve:
> 
>   Yes, that is the final system that we had decided on before we ran
out of money!  
> 
>   This would work very well, but you still have to get judges trained
to use it properly.  Of course, it would have to be standardized so
everyone could build their own that would interface with the proper
electronic equipment.  
> 
> 
>   Tony Stillman
>   Radio South
>   3702 N. Pace Blvd.
>   Pensacola, FL 32505
>   1-800-962-7802
>   www.radiosouthrc.com
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Patternrules at aol.com 
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>     Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 8:30 AM
>     Subject: Re: Judge Training /Contest Scoring
> 
> 
>      Tony & Dean maybe your closer than you think, really if you think
about it you only need a 2 button system as AMA uses 1/2 point
increments say the right button every time you push it deducts 1/2 point
the left button would be as an "enter" which would then go to the next
maneuver, could even be programed to input the contestant # by the same
method say push enter button 3 times for a new contestant, for FAI the
program would detect that the pilot # is FAI and would use 1 point
increments. 
> 
> 
>     Steve Maxwell
> 

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