A possible answer to lousy judging "Flash cards"

Bill Glaze billglaze at triad.rr.com
Thu Apr 15 05:39:07 AKDT 2004


Lance:
Are you calling the upperclassmen dense?<G>  Bill Glaze

Lance Van Nostrand wrote:

> This was the best suggestion the last time we had a big judging 
> discussion.  I think I like this idea.  No doubt that it would make 
> spectating more enjoyable.  I couldn't imagine watching the Olympic 
> gymnasts or divers and not seeing the judge scores until the round was 
> over. That's a channel changer.
>   However, it seems like it could be difficult to find the right card 
> and hold it up in time, especially in the dense upper classes.
> --Lance
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>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: mike mueller <mailto:mups1953 at yahoo.com>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:47 PM
>     Subject: A possible answer to lousy judging "Flash cards"
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>     I propose that flash cards be brought back to judging. It would
>     allow judges to be critiqued by their peers. The way it works is
>     the judge has numbered flash cards on his lap. The scribe sits
>     behind the judge and records the data. Nothing new here but if a
>     guy is scoring vanilla it will be detected. If a guy is giving
>     good scores to bad snaps it would give others the ability to
>     straighten him out. Flash cards worked in the old days and they
>     are sorely needed now. If you like the idea and your a CD it's as
>     easy to try as doing it. To the best of my knowledge there aren't
>     any rules to stop you. Flash cards made speculating more fun and
>     was educational.
>      Has anyone done this in recent times?
>           I'm searching for an answer here. Do you have a better
>     solution because if your leaving it up to the good faith of others
>     then you have what we have now? Human nature always reverts back
>     to the same bad habits no matter how much you beat things into
>     others. In the end it's a system that fails not humans.Edward
>     Deming stated that 85% of all failures are due to systems
>     problems and the remaining 15% are human. I believe he was
>     correct. Our system is flawed and it's keeping the sport back.
>      I stated before that I don't like contestant judging. On average
>     the decline of pattern that started in the mid 80's parallels the
>     advent of this procedure. I realize that it's too hard to fix it
>     now but something has to change.It's pretty easy to experiment
>     with flash cards. I know from personal experience that it works
>     and I can't see why we got away from it.
>      It's good to debate, Thanks, Mike Mueller
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