Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals articles in AMA Mag.

[Paul Lawrence]

Which issue of MA did this article appear in?


--- rcaerobob at cox.net wrote:
> This note will likely rankle some, but it may give
> you pause to consider...
>   The AMA - by definition - is *NOT* a "competition
> support" kind of organization.  They get a LOT of
> heat (and LOTS MORE $$$$$$) from the NON-COMPETITION
> member.  Although it may be tough to swallow, the
> reality is that competition aerobatic pilots
> comprise MAYBE point.1 percent of the "paying
> membership".
>   It is very naive to assume that the leaders of the
> AMA would be more sensitive to the smallest of
> influences in the budget.
>   Forgive me if I sound cynical, but the AMA
> officers are dealing with ugly realities of terrible
> expense increases due to insurance and litigated
> settlements (and probably some inefficiencies in the
> USE of $$).  The AMA needs all those tens of
> thousands of members, so THAT is the population that
> the EC better cater to....or did I miss something
> really important?
>   Precision aerobatics does NOT have the "hammer" to
> influence the AMA site usage policy(ies).  I think
> we are best left to our own solutions if/when AMA
> sez "no mas" to the "Muncie-centric Model Aviation
> world"...
>   Cause collectively, we don't have the lever to
> change it.
> 
> > 
> > From: "Jeff Hughes" <jhughes at hsonline.net>
> > Date: 2003/10/30 Thu AM 11:13:31 EST
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org,  <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Subject: RE: Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals
> articles in AMA Mag.
> > 
> > I can't imagine that the original intent of the
> site was for 
> > individuals to use the site for regular old flying
> time. We pay a lot 
> > of dues if we're going to limit the site for
> national events just so 
> > some locals can fly whenever they want.
> > 
> > > By definition it is a National site - so it
> should have priority for 
> > National events.
> > > 
> > > To take it a step further the AMA should have
> several National site 
> > strategically situated around the USA.
> > > 
> > > Enough of the Muncie centric mentality!!!!!!!!!!
> > > 
> > > AND, while I am on this rant, it should have AMA
> satellite sites, 
> > leased to clubs,  in the Muncie area for running
> parallel events and 
> > so that, back up and  preparation and practice
> sites are guaranteed 
> > for contestants!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > End of rant!.
> > > 
> > > Eric. 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf
> Of Tony Stillman
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:55 AM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals
> articles in AMA Mag.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I was told by people at AMA that President Dave
> Brown had received 
> > quite a
> > > few messages about this (about 200) form pilots
> complaining that the
> > > National Site had too many events, making it
> unavailable for everyday
> > > flying.
> > > 
> > > Tony Stillman
> > > Radio South
> > > 3702 N. Pace Blvd.
> > > Pensacola, FL 32505
> > > 1-800-962-7802
> > > www.radiosouthrc.com
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "John Crozier" <sjcrozier at comcast.net>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals
> articles in AMA Mag.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Where did the notion that "AMA wants the
> facility available more to
> > > regular
> > > > members" originate?
> > > > If that's true, I agree that it is a lame
> excuse to not extend the 
> > NATS.
> > > > I live in the Muncie area, and fly there
> occasionally.
> > > > Usually when meeting an out- of -town buddy,
> as my home field has a
> > > no-guest
> > > > policy.
> > > > On any given week-day, we are almost always
> the only fliers there.
> > > > Occasionally, a couple of glider pilots show
> up.
> > > > Weekends will see a slightly larger turnout if
> the weather 
> > is "nice".
> > > > Munsee SkyChiefs have "trainer night" on
> Tuesdays.
> > > > The club offers trainers with buddy cords, and
> instructors, for 
> > people who
> > > > are interested in learning.
> > > > During the NATS, the club uses their home
> field at the Muncie 
> > reservoir.
> > > > Approximately 50 of us fliers in this area are
> scattered among 
> > Three
> > > "behind
> > > > the barn" flying sites.
> > > > These  sites are certified for insurance
> purposes, and used at the
> > > pleasure
> > > > of the farmer-land owner on a year-to-year
> agreement.
> > > > In summery:
> > > > The AMA has no registration procedure for site
> users, so I can 
> > only relate
> > > > what I have seen.
> > > > I have seen 0 to 4 fliers on weekdays, and as
> many as Six fliers on
> > > > weekends.....croz
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Gray E Fowler" <gfowler at raytheon.com>
> > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Pattern & IMAC 2003 Nationals
> articles in AMA Mag.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Wow ! If the AMA wants the facility
> available more to regular 
> > members
> > > then
> > > > > that is a very lame excuse. The national
> flying site was built 
> > for the
> > > > > NATS, not just in case someone is traveling
> thru the cornfields 
> > of
> > > > > Indiana....with an airplane....I do believe
> Steve Maxwell(lives  
> > nearby)
> > > > > told me that people rarely fly there
> anyway...so if that was an 
> > official
> > > > > excuse  to shorten the NATS, then it is just
> plain lame. The 
> > average AMA
> > > > > member could get more flying time by staying
> home.  This just 
> > seems so
> > > > > incredible if it is true....the world's
> largest site dedicated 
> > to RC
> > > JUST
> > > > > IN CASE you are in Indiana with a
> plane......Imagine if the AMA 
> > held no
> > > > > competition and did not need the flying
> site, only an admin 
> > blgd, how
> > > much
> > > > > better off financially the AMA would be.
> > > > > If this is true we should fire every AMA
> executive we know and 
> > replace
> > > > > them with Dilbert managers...we would be
> much better off....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gray Fowler
> > > > > Principal Chemical Engineer
> > > > > Composites Engineering
> > > > >
> > > > >
> 
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