Landings and Take-off's - The vote!.:

[george kennie]

The evidence is before you, people!!!!!
Here is another blatant example of the upper class flyers forcing  their agenda upon the lower class flyers, irrespective of the desires of the masses. Whoever said that we abide by democratic processes might have been experiencing a bad hair day!?
Between the two referenced maneuvers, there are no less than 17 elemental judging criteria by which a judge can arrive at a considered award. Think about it guys! Seventeen different downgrades! To someone, way back when, these maneuvers represented enough merit for that person to spend significant
contemplation to establish a set of guidelines so that a judge could then sit in the chair with a set of effective tools by which a fair award could be made.It's pretty obvious, to me, that these maneuvers were considered important to the person who drew up the rules, and to throw them all away would represent
an act of disrespect to that individual(s).In my opinion, whoever assembled the compendium we have been fortunate to inherit thru the directive we affectionately call the "rule book", represents a deliberate thinker of magnanamous proportions, and for us to second guess this genius would truly be folly.
   If there are truly problems with the scoring of these two maneuvers, then, I feel, there has been a failure in our certification program. We, in all probability, need to emphasize certain elements of instruction regarding these maneuvers.The problem areas need to be fixed. Don't throw the baby out with the
bath water!
   In my local area I have heard the statement, "Pattern pilots can fly well, but they can't land." I have no idea how we came to deserve this reputation among the sport pilots.I fear that if we remove the referenced maneuvers from the sequences, we will be lending support to their claim, encouraging them to
believe that we agree with them.
As regards centering and whether the runway is lined or not, the issue of judging the size of the landing zone is no more valid than judging the length of the 15 meter entry and exit line before and after a maneuver. I have yet to attend a contest where they had lined the sky for the event, and yet I was
entrusted with the ability to assess whether each said line was indeed of the correct length(further, there were no protests).If I judge the landing zone long or short, maybe the judge next to me judges in the opposing direction cancelling me out.Hey!, we're talking about a K-1 maneuver here. How many points
can I be penalized? Out of a total score of how many hundred points????
Another point I would like to address regarding " goes to presentation".  Watch the really good guys in FAI perform these maneuvers. They do them like proffessionals!!! Smooth and graceful. Says to the Judge, " I'm worth watching closely, you're going to see good stuff from me."
  Let's not forget the lower class guys as this is an area we worked hard to master and we deserve our just desserts
Georgie

"Henderson,Eric" wrote:

> This how those who cared to vote in the 2004 NSRCA survey, voted on landings and Take-off's for 2005 rules proposal changes.
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> Question-10
> Should the Take off and Landing be scored in 401.
> YES = 152____         NO = 26_____          RESULT  = NO CHANGE____
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> Question-16
> Should take off and landings be scored in Intermediate
> YES = 156____         NO = 25_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
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> Question-19
> Should takeoff and landings be scored in Advanced
> YES = 135____         NO = 39_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
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> Question-24
> Should takeoff and landings be scored in Masters
> YES = 106____         NO = 60_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
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> As you can see the majority still wanted to have them scored. The vote weakened a little in Masters but it still was strong for them both to be scored.
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> I have noticed a strong affinity, maybe even affection for these two maneuvers. Some believe that they strengthen a pilots flying skill etc. I think that more planes get hurt trying to land in bad conditions and on cruddy runways that any skill bonus. Just my opinion so please don't get all religious on me.
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"Henderson,Eric" wrote:

> This how those who cared to vote in the 2004 NSRCA survey, voted on landings and Take-off's for 2005 rules proposal changes.
>
>
> Question-10
> Should the Take off and Landing be scored in 401.
> YES = 152____         NO = 26_____          RESULT  = NO CHANGE____
>
> Question-16
> Should take off and landings be scored in Intermediate
> YES = 156____         NO = 25_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
>
> Question-19
> Should takeoff and landings be scored in Advanced
> YES = 135____         NO = 39_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
>
> Question-24
> Should takeoff and landings be scored in Masters
> YES = 106____         NO = 60_____          RESULT = NO CHANGE____
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> As you can see the majority still wanted to have them scored. The vote weakened a little in Masters but it still was strong for them both to be scored.
>
> I have noticed a strong affinity, maybe even affection for these two maneuvers. Some believe that they strengthen a pilots flying skill etc. I think that more planes get hurt trying to land in bad conditions and on cruddy runways that any skill bonus. Just my opinion so please don't get all religious on me.
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> Regards,
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> Eric.
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