Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????

Bill Glaze billglaze at triad.rr.com
Tue Nov 11 12:01:19 AKST 2003


All my landings are crosswind landings!<G>  Bill Glaze

Adam Glatt wrote:

> The rule states 'to handle a crosswind situation.'  If there was no 
> crosswind you should be downgraded.  The slip is a long ways from 
> smooth and graceful.  And, if you are good and crazy enough to side 
> slip down to less than 6 feet above the ground in a contest with your 
> pattern ship you had better be flying FAI, else you are sand-bagging.  
> I do the slip as soon as I turn onto the landing approach and end at 
> least 6 feet up, because it takes some time to get the plane back into 
> flying mode for a smooth landing.
>
> I usually save the slips for practice flights as well.... kind of like 
> rolling 45deg back and forth on the downwind approach.  Not exactly 
> against the rules, but just looks bad in a contest flight.
>
> Bill Glaze wrote:
>
>> Rule Book, Page 82, Par. #3:  "The pilot elects to "slip to a 
>> landing" to handle a crosswind condition, in which case the upwind 
>> wing will be low."
>> The rule book allows a slip to a landing with no downgrade.
>>
>> Bill Glaze
>>
>>
>> chadnortheast at shaw.ca wrote:
>>
>>> He flies FAI anyway, I doubt it hurts the scores much :)
>>>
>>> Besides where does it say you cant slip?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:20 am
>>> Subject: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Exactly when are you supposed to start judging the landing? If you 
>>>> stop the slip before 6 feet off the ground then it shouldn't effect 
>>>> the judge. I guess after so many years of flying I can tell you 
>>>> that I'm a little tired of the judges and there petty preferences 
>>>> that shouldn't come into play. But hey that won't change things so 
>>>> I guess I'll learn to deal with it. Mike
>>>>
>>>> Del Rykert <drykert at rochester.rr.com> wrote:Might be more fun but 
>>>> doesn't help your score because it don't impress the judges.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Glatt To: 
>>>> discussion at nsrca.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Side slipping is more fun =>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Larry Diamond" <jed241 at msn.com>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>>> Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>> To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:33 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK...Maybe I'm loosing my mind...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a conversation with an individual that told me I was wrong 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> and that   
>>>>
>>>>>> we don't use nor will ever use spoilers for a pattern plane.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do have at least one e-mail referencing that some folks in New 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> Jersey   
>>>>
>>>>>> have tinkered with this. I seem to recall a number of posts but 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> I can' find   
>>>>
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I would like to do, is take the responses (Good / Bad) from 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> this   
>>>>
>>>>>> thread to form my own opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have never tried it. But I think it was advise I received from 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> a thread   
>>>>
>>>>>> on trying to control the speed of my landings for short runways. 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>> But I   
>>>>
>>>>>> really don't recall all the points...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again, perhaps I have lost my mind...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See ya,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>           
>>>>>
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