Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????

[Adam Glatt]

The rule states 'to handle a crosswind situation.'  If there was no 
crosswind you should be downgraded.  The slip is a long ways from smooth 
and graceful.  And, if you are good and crazy enough to side slip down 
to less than 6 feet above the ground in a contest with your pattern ship 
you had better be flying FAI, else you are sand-bagging.  I do the slip 
as soon as I turn onto the landing approach and end at least 6 feet up, 
because it takes some time to get the plane back into flying mode for a 
smooth landing.

I usually save the slips for practice flights as well.... kind of like 
rolling 45deg back and forth on the downwind approach.  Not exactly 
against the rules, but just looks bad in a contest flight.

Bill Glaze wrote:

> Rule Book, Page 82, Par. #3:  "The pilot elects to "slip to a landing" 
> to handle a crosswind condition, in which case the upwind wing will be 
> low."
> The rule book allows a slip to a landing with no downgrade.
>
> Bill Glaze
>
>
> chadnortheast at shaw.ca wrote:
>
>>He flies FAI anyway, I doubt it hurts the scores much :)
>>
>>Besides where does it say you cant slip?
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>
>>Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 7:20 am
>>Subject: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Exactly when are you supposed to start judging the landing? If 
>>>you stop the slip before 6 feet off the ground then it shouldn't 
>>>effect the judge. I guess after so many years of flying I can tell 
>>>you that I'm a little tired of the judges and there petty 
>>>preferences that shouldn't come into play. But hey that won't 
>>>change things so I guess I'll learn to deal with it. Mike
>>>
>>>Del Rykert <drykert at rochester.rr.com> wrote:Might be more fun but 
>>>doesn't help your score because it don't impress the judges.
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Adam Glatt 
>>>To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>>>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 8:59 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>>
>>>
>>>Side slipping is more fun =>
>>>
>>>From: "Larry Diamond" <jed241 at msn.com>
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>>>>Subject: Spoilers for Pattern Planes?????
>>>>>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:19:33 -0500
>>>>>
>>>>>OK...Maybe I'm loosing my mind...
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a conversation with an individual that told me I was wrong 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>and that 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>we don't use nor will ever use spoilers for a pattern plane.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do have at least one e-mail referencing that some folks in New 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>Jersey 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>have tinkered with this. I seem to recall a number of posts but 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>I can' find 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>them.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I would like to do, is take the responses (Good / Bad) from 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>this 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>thread to form my own opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have never tried it. But I think it was advise I received from 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>a thread 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>on trying to control the speed of my landings for short runways. 
>>>>>        
>>>>>
>>>But I 
>>>    
>>>
>>>>>really don't recall all the points...
>>>>>
>>>>>Then again, perhaps I have lost my mind...
>>>>>
>>>>>See ya,
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry
>>>>>   
>>>>>          
>>>>>



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