Intermediate maneuver questions

[Ed Deaver]

Hey Park

If you just came back from a contest, you missed the best opportunity to get
these questions answered in real time.

At the next contest:
1)  Ask to scribe for the next higher class judges, and you would be amazed
at the different perspective you will get, as wekll as ask the judge(between
flights) why did you score this and that.

2)  Take a stick plane and ask someone to go through the entire sequence
with center and end lines of the box marked.  The visual aid answers most
questions as you do this.

3)  Don't be afraid to ask one of the higher level pilots to critique your
flight.  Bad habits can only be broken once someone points them out to us,
otherwise they continue because we don't know they are happening.

Something else that may/maynot help is go to the IMAC site and look at the
aresti drawing of Basic and Sportsman.  The sequence is not the same, but it
may help to show positioning a little.

Another idea,if available is to ask a higher level pilot to fly your
sequence and explain the good and bad as they are flying it.  If you show up
on Fri to practice at a contest this would be a good time to do this.

Ed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ihncheol Park" <PatternFlyer at msn.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 1:56 AM
Subject: RE: Intermediate maneuver questions


> Thank for you quick replies both of Steve Maxwell & Steve Sterling!
>
> Looks like I miss stated in my previous posting.
> After the centered cobra roll with half rolls up & down, there is a
One-half
> Cuban Eight that is followed by Non-Rolling Triangle loop.
>
> My question was that.
> Since Steve Maxwell stated that the Half Cuban eight take off half the
box,
> both Cobra Roll and Triangle loop is centered, and there has to be 15
meter
> straight line between maneuvers,
> where does the knife edge position of the half roll in the half Cuban
eight
> has to be?
>
> Somewhere in the half the box, centered vertically and slightly moved to
> outer position horizontally?
>
> My reason to put the Cuban Eight in the previous posting was to find out
how
> far the Half Cuban Eight has to move.
>
> I don't want to make people confused.
> Let me know if anything is unclear.
>
> Thank you,~
>
> Ihncheol Park
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of RC Steve Sterling
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:16 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Intermediate maneuver questions
>
>
> The all just follow each other. You never do 2 centered manuvers in a row.
> - Enter the box going upwind
> - Cuban 8 with 1/2 rolls is centered
> - Stall turn as an upwind turnaround (end of the box)
> - 2 horizontal rolls are centered
> - humpty bump as a downwind turnaround
> - Cobra roll with half rolls up and down (centered, going upwind)
> - One Half cuban 8 as another upwind turnaround
> - Non-rolling Triangle Loop (centered,going downwind)
> - Half Square loop as another downwind turnaround
> - Outside loop from the top (centered, going upwind)
> - Split S at the upwind end of the box to turn around
> - Inverted straight flight (centered, going downwind)
> - Stall turn with full roll up, downwind turnaround
> - Square loop (centered upwind)
> - 1/2 Reverse Cuban 8 (another upwind turnaround)
> - Two half rolls in opposite directions (centered-downwind)
> - Land it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ihncheol Park
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:20 PM
> To: NSRCA
> Subject: Intermediate maneuver questions
>
>
> Hi, All,
>
> Back from contests?
> I have a few dumb questions to ask.  I have trouble finding where to
> position the maneuvers.  I didn't have a chance to attend judging seminar.
>
> Since entire sequences (except take off & landing) are done with in the
box
> (60 degrees left, right, and above of pilot position as center), I am
trying
> to draw all the maneuvers within the rectangular box.
>
> When doing the Cobra Roll with Half rolls up and down (up-wind), I believe
> this maneuver is centered in the middle of box horizontally.
> Right?
>
> Is the half Cuban eight a turn around maneuver that starts and ends in
half
> of box in left or right side?
>
> Cuban eight has both half rolls on vertically and horizontally centered in
> the box.
> Where does the half roll occur?  Vertical and horizontal center of half
box?
>
> Since the next maneuver is Non-rolling triangle loop (which I believe is a
> center maneuver), the position of the half Cuban eight is not quite
> understandable.
>
> Please, let me know.
> Thank you,
>
> Ihncheol Park
> 1973 White Ave., #402
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