F3A Biplanes have a future!

Jerry Budd jbudd at QNET.COM
Wed May 14 07:33:07 AKDT 2003


Re: the flying wires, I'm pretty sure it didn't have any.

Eric, I agree the "how it flew" should be of more interest but I 
don't think you're going to get much (if any) information of 
substance from a 45 second flight (regardless of what the pilot may 
tell you).

Jerry

>My data source says that wing mount sides were primarily balsa and 
>needed a simple lite ply plate to remedy the situation.
>
>I am not sure why we are so interested in the failure aspect when 
>the "how it flew" is what peaks my interest. I am tracking the 
>Bi-plane "adventure" and so far it seems they snap recover better, 
>roll much better, circles etc. this is because they transition 
>between wing lift and fuselage lift much better than the current 
>mono's..
>
>Eric.
>
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>Well, you may want to add that it failed because he was supposed to install
>the flying wires and didn't... Or so I heard.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Chip Hyde's crashed about a minute into the first flight due to a
>structural failure of the wing(s).
>
>>What other biplane has crashed due to wing failure besides the one I
>>reported?
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jerry Budd [mailto:jbudd at QNET.COM]
>>Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:16 AM
>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
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>>>That makes three (publically known) biplane projects going on right
>>>now. Just when you think you've got the best.... ;>  Time to spend
>>>more money.
>>
>>Two of which crashed on their first flight due to structural failure of
>>the wings.
>>
>>More money is right.
>>
>>>
>>>I'm rather torn on this biplane issue.  Should FAI add a new rule that
>>>outlaws them?  On one hand, I'm sure they will improve our flights,
>>>but on the other I don't want them to be advantage over the planes we
>>>have now. Kind of like changing the 2m size limit to 2.5m.  The guys
>>>with the big factories behind them will have an advantage, while the
>>>rest of us will be alienated.  Going to biplanes might be no different
>>>than going to 2.5m,
>>only
>>>it isn't against the rules.  Or, it might be like the switch to 2m
>>>planes from the .60 planes.  I would hate to go back to a 0.60 after
>>>flying a 2m.
>>
>>Pattern will die before we go back to 0.60 sized airplanes. Pandora's
>>box was opened a long time ago.
>>
>>>
>>>That said, I want a biplane.  I do expect they will fly better, which
>>>is certainly a good thing, and someone has to develop them before I
>>>get to fly it.
>>
>>When someone can properly define what "flying better" is, then we have
>>something that can be debated.  Until then this is just marketing.
>>
>>Jerry
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