F3A Biplanes have a future!

[Jerry Budd]

No, it had a 140DZ.

>Time for a cargo van on a step van.
>
>What engine are they using.  I heard that Chips had a DA50 on it.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
>Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:37 am
>Subject: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!
>
>>  Try putting two in the van.... (VBG)
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>>  [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
>>  Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:36 AM
>>  To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>  Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
>>
>>
>>  Many vehicals will accept a fully assembled Bipe.
>>  Disadvantage becmes an advantage...
>>
>>  John Ferrell
>>  6241 Phillippi Rd
>>  Julian NC 27283
>>  Phone: (336)685-9606
>>  johnferrell at earthlink.net
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>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
>>  To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:13 AM
>>  Subject: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!
>>
>>
>>  The only snag that I have found with bi-planes is the assembly at
>>  the field!
>>  Four ailerons?  wing struts? etc. I sold a very good flying
>>  Ultimate and the
>>  16 screws it took to assemble! I prefer one wing screw and two
>>  aileron leads
>>  ....Hmmmmm.... can I adapt???
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>>  Eric.
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
>>  [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Adam Glatt
>>  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:15 AM
>>  To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>  Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
>>
>>
>>  That makes three (publically known) biplane projects going on
>>  right now.
>>  Just when you think you've got the best.... ;>  Time to spend more
>>  money.
>>  I'm rather torn on this biplane issue.  Should FAI add a new rule that
>>  outlaws them?  On one hand, I'm sure they will improve our
>>  flights, but on
>>  the other I don't want them to be advantage over the planes we
>>  have now.
>>  Kind of like changing the 2m size limit to 2.5m.  The guys with
>>  the big
>>  factories behind them will have an advantage, while the rest of us
>>  will be
>>  alienated.  Going to biplanes might be no different than going to
>>  2.5m, only
>>  it isn't against the rules.  Or, it might be like the switch to 2m
>>  planesfrom the .60 planes.  I would hate to go back to a 0.60
>>  after flying a 2m.
>>
>>  That said, I want a biplane.  I do expect they will fly better,
>>  which is
>>  certainly a good thing, and someone has to develop them before I
>>  get to fly
>>  it.
>>
>>  Still divided, but practicing as much as possible anyways,
>>  Adam Glatt
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "PENNISI Peter" <Peter.Pennisi at publicworks.qld.gov.au>
>>  To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>  Sent: May 12, 2003 8:17 PM
>>  Subject: F3A Biplanes have a future!
>>
>>
>>  >
>>  > Hi all,
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > I had to opportunity to watch a F3A biplane fly for a short
>>  while in the
>>  > hands of a very capable pilot last weekend. The model was built
>>  by a local
>>  > kit manufacturer who adapted a set of wings to Carrera 2000
>>  (Designed by
>>  > Peter Goldsmith)as an experiment.
>>  >
>>  > The model was flown briefly through the P03 schedule until an
>>  unfortunate> problem resulted in the model having to land minus
>>  wings on one side of
>>  the
>>  > fuse (More on that later) Anyway the flight looked very impressive
>>  > especially in the broader speed envelope the model was capable
>>  of flying
>>  in.
>>  > The model was powered with a YS140DZ and weighed about 10.5pounds.
>>  >
>>  > The very experienced F3A pilot commented how impressed he was
>>  with the
>>  model
>>  > and felt it was already better than his current monoplane.
>>  Particular> comments he made was that it spins, stall turns and
>>  rolls great snaps
>>  would
>>  > have been great until half the wing was ripped off as a result of
>>  > overstressing.
>>  >
>>  > What this pilot did as the wings tore off was truly impressive.
>>  With the
>>  > wings completely ripped off from one side of the fuse he had the
>  > initiative
>>  > to throttle up and fly the model in knife-edge and fly it around
>>  to make a
>>  > crash landing approach. The end result was a few scratches to
>>  the fuse and
>>  a
>>  > broken prop. This was one of the most impressive things I have seen.
>>  >
>>  > It is a pity I didn't have my video camera with me as it
>>  certainly would
>>  > have been great to see over and over again.
>>  >
>>  > I was very sceptical about F3A biplanes in Pattern until I saw
>>  this model
>>  > fly on the weekend. I have no doubt that will be taken seriously
>>  at the
>>  next
>>  > world champs.
>>  >
>>  > Follow this link to view the model prior to it crashing.
>>  >
>>  > http://www.qpfa.org.au/neil/a_couple_of_stories_from_behind_.html
>>  >
>>  > Regards,
>>  >
>>  > Peter
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