F3A Biplanes have a future!

[glenn hatfield]

Time for a cargo van on a step van.

What engine are they using.  I heard that Chips had a DA50 on it.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:37 am
Subject: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!

> Try putting two in the van.... (VBG)
> 
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> [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:36 AM
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> Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> 
> Many vehicals will accept a fully assembled Bipe.
> Disadvantage becmes an advantage...
> 
> John Ferrell
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:13 AM
> Subject: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> 
> The only snag that I have found with bi-planes is the assembly at 
> the field!
> Four ailerons?  wing struts? etc. I sold a very good flying 
> Ultimate and the
> 16 screws it took to assemble! I prefer one wing screw and two 
> aileron leads
> ....Hmmmmm.... can I adapt???
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eric.
> 
> 
> 
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> [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Adam Glatt
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> 
> That makes three (publically known) biplane projects going on 
> right now.
> Just when you think you've got the best.... ;>  Time to spend more 
> money.
> I'm rather torn on this biplane issue.  Should FAI add a new rule that
> outlaws them?  On one hand, I'm sure they will improve our 
> flights, but on
> the other I don't want them to be advantage over the planes we 
> have now.
> Kind of like changing the 2m size limit to 2.5m.  The guys with 
> the big
> factories behind them will have an advantage, while the rest of us 
> will be
> alienated.  Going to biplanes might be no different than going to 
> 2.5m, only
> it isn't against the rules.  Or, it might be like the switch to 2m 
> planesfrom the .60 planes.  I would hate to go back to a 0.60 
> after flying a 2m.
> 
> That said, I want a biplane.  I do expect they will fly better, 
> which is
> certainly a good thing, and someone has to develop them before I 
> get to fly
> it.
> 
> Still divided, but practicing as much as possible anyways,
> Adam Glatt
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "PENNISI Peter" <Peter.Pennisi at publicworks.qld.gov.au>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: May 12, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> 
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > I had to opportunity to watch a F3A biplane fly for a short 
> while in the
> > hands of a very capable pilot last weekend. The model was built 
> by a local
> > kit manufacturer who adapted a set of wings to Carrera 2000 
> (Designed by
> > Peter Goldsmith)as an experiment.
> >
> > The model was flown briefly through the P03 schedule until an 
> unfortunate> problem resulted in the model having to land minus 
> wings on one side of
> the
> > fuse (More on that later) Anyway the flight looked very impressive
> > especially in the broader speed envelope the model was capable 
> of flying
> in.
> > The model was powered with a YS140DZ and weighed about 10.5pounds.
> >
> > The very experienced F3A pilot commented how impressed he was 
> with the
> model
> > and felt it was already better than his current monoplane. 
> Particular> comments he made was that it spins, stall turns and 
> rolls great snaps
> would
> > have been great until half the wing was ripped off as a result of
> > overstressing.
> >
> > What this pilot did as the wings tore off was truly impressive. 
> With the
> > wings completely ripped off from one side of the fuse he had the
> initiative
> > to throttle up and fly the model in knife-edge and fly it around 
> to make a
> > crash landing approach. The end result was a few scratches to 
> the fuse and
> a
> > broken prop. This was one of the most impressive things I have seen.
> >
> > It is a pity I didn't have my video camera with me as it 
> certainly would
> > have been great to see over and over again.
> >
> > I was very sceptical about F3A biplanes in Pattern until I saw 
> this model
> > fly on the weekend. I have no doubt that will be taken seriously 
> at the
> next
> > world champs.
> >
> > Follow this link to view the model prior to it crashing.
> >
> > http://www.qpfa.org.au/neil/a_couple_of_stories_from_behind_.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter
> 
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