F3A Biplanes have a future!

[glenn hatfield]

Particularlu iside a VAN.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:51 am
Subject: RE: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!

> I am pretty current with certain engine developments and all of 
> the bi-plane stuff, including the wing failure.... HOWEVER, I am a 
> sponge for more so you know where to send it .... pretty please...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eric.
> 
> P.S. Petrol is more dangerous than Methanol...
> 
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> [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of edbon85 at optonline.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> 
> Eric, time to sharpen your pen....... : )
> Get used to the smell of gasoline inside your van as that's coming 
> too.Ed M.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 7:13 am
> Subject: RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> 
> > The only snag that I have found with bi-planes is the assembly 
> at 
> > the field! Four ailerons?  wing struts? etc. I sold a very good 
> > flying Ultimate and the 16 screws it took to assemble! I prefer 
> > one wing screw and two aileron leads ....Hmmmmm.... can I adapt???
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Eric.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Adam Glatt
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 1:15 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> > 
> > 
> > That makes three (publically known) biplane projects going on 
> > right now.
> > Just when you think you've got the best.... ;>  Time to spend 
> more 
> > money.
> > I'm rather torn on this biplane issue.  Should FAI add a new 
> rule that
> > outlaws them?  On one hand, I'm sure they will improve our 
> > flights, but on
> > the other I don't want them to be advantage over the planes we 
> > have now.
> > Kind of like changing the 2m size limit to 2.5m.  The guys with 
> > the big
> > factories behind them will have an advantage, while the rest of 
> us 
> > will be
> > alienated.  Going to biplanes might be no different than going 
> to 
> > 2.5m, only
> > it isn't against the rules.  Or, it might be like the switch to 
> 2m 
> > planesfrom the .60 planes.  I would hate to go back to a 0.60 
> > after flying a 2m.
> > 
> > That said, I want a biplane.  I do expect they will fly better, 
> > which is
> > certainly a good thing, and someone has to develop them before I 
> > get to fly
> > it.
> > 
> > Still divided, but practicing as much as possible anyways,
> > Adam Glatt
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "PENNISI Peter" <Peter.Pennisi at publicworks.qld.gov.au>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: May 12, 2003 8:17 PM
> > Subject: F3A Biplanes have a future!
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > I had to opportunity to watch a F3A biplane fly for a short 
> > while in the
> > > hands of a very capable pilot last weekend. The model was 
> built 
> > by a local
> > > kit manufacturer who adapted a set of wings to Carrera 2000 
> > (Designed by
> > > Peter Goldsmith)as an experiment.
> > >
> > > The model was flown briefly through the P03 schedule until an 
> > unfortunate> problem resulted in the model having to land minus 
> > wings on one side of
> > the
> > > fuse (More on that later) Anyway the flight looked very impressive
> > > especially in the broader speed envelope the model was capable 
> > of flying
> > in.
> > > The model was powered with a YS140DZ and weighed about 10.5pounds.
> > >
> > > The very experienced F3A pilot commented how impressed he was 
> > with the
> > model
> > > and felt it was already better than his current monoplane. 
> > Particular> comments he made was that it spins, stall turns and 
> > rolls great snaps
> > would
> > > have been great until half the wing was ripped off as a result of
> > > overstressing.
> > >
> > > What this pilot did as the wings tore off was truly 
> impressive. 
> > With the
> > > wings completely ripped off from one side of the fuse he had the
> > initiative
> > > to throttle up and fly the model in knife-edge and fly it 
> around 
> > to make a
> > > crash landing approach. The end result was a few scratches to 
> > the fuse and
> > a
> > > broken prop. This was one of the most impressive things I have 
> seen.> >
> > > It is a pity I didn't have my video camera with me as it 
> > certainly would
> > > have been great to see over and over again.
> > >
> > > I was very sceptical about F3A biplanes in Pattern until I saw 
> > this model
> > > fly on the weekend. I have no doubt that will be taken 
> seriously 
> > at the
> > next
> > > world champs.
> > >
> > > Follow this link to view the model prior to it crashing.
> > >
> > > http://www.qpfa.org.au/neil/a_couple_of_stories_from_behind_.html
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Peter
> > 
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