MINTOR
Jon Uhler
juhler at jfmolloy.com
Mon May 12 08:26:27 AKDT 2003
I was planning on using a 17x10 or 12 on the 1.40. Is this too much?
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Ihncheol Park [mailto:PatternFlyer at msn.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 11:15 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: MINTOR
Jim,
I have a few questions,
140 turns APC 16.5 x 12W @ 8350
170 turns APC 17 x 12 @ 8100
both with 15% Cool power?
How rich are the engines running?
I am not sure how the two props are loading when use on a same engine, but
the output figures sound like 140 is running better.
How about fuel consumption of both engines?
Thanks,
Ihncheol Park
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From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP/ACQ
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:43 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: RE: MINTOR
Hi Eric, Dean,
I've ran the both the 3M 140 and 170.
The 140 only saw 15% Cool Power and two OSA5 plugs. From the first start in
my drive way it ran as good as you can expect a new engine to run. I ran
two tanks using idle, mid, and W.O.T. Then, took to flying it. After a few
flights, engine was tached at 8350 with the apc 16.5 x 12W (with header cut
1.0").
The 170 saw 25% Cool Power from the start, with 1 OSA5 and 1 OSF. This
weekend, I switched to 15% Cool Power and two OSA5 plugs. I needed to
readjust the high and low end. High end was about 5/8 turn leaner. After a
few flights, it was turning the 17 x 12 apc at 8100. At this ground
setting, the uplines did not show any signs of sagging. Maneuvers like the
top hat w/ ¾ up, or the figure 9 with 3/2 can be as tall as you like -
really cruising over the top. Also, header is cut 1.0" shorter than stock.
What I noticed this weekend using the 15% fuel, which was not as prevalent
with the 25% fuel, is that when landing, I needed to lower the idle trim.
At launch, idle was 1900-2000. All the ground running and throttling would
always come down and hit the idle speed. However, after the full flight, I
needed to lower the trim or it would want to float on by.
Jim W.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Pappas [mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:03 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: MINTOR
Hi Eric,
Dean here ... The 140 finds K&B 1-L plugs too hot, the "F"s have got to be
even moreso!
I found the same issue with needing a few minutes of running to loosen-up
adequately in order to be able to run at W.O.T.
It helps to fatten the mid-range with the idle mixture screw.
You will find it has a tremendous amount of authority over the mid-range
mixture, and can easily over-lean the engine there.
Dean
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