4 pt roll

[jed241 at msn.com]

New at the judging game.

********To re-phrase what I think I read.  As a judge; if the roll rate is so 
fast that I am not sure that all points existed as hestiations, then I 
can issue a downgrade for a missed point or points.  A missed point 
would be a major downgrade.***********

If even one point is missed (no hesitation), would this warrant a zero vs major downgrade as it is not a 4 point roll? Is this view too critical for the four point roll?

Curious.

Larry

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  In a message dated 5/3/2003 7:35:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, randy10926 at comcast.net writes:



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    Thanks for the reply.

    To re-phrase what I think I read.  As a judge; if the roll rate is so 
    fast that I am not sure that all points existed as hestiations, then I 
    can issue a downgrade for a missed point or points.  A missed point 
    would be a major downgrade.

    Randy Hatfield


  Randy,

  Roll rate, the speed at which rolling is done, does not matter. You can peg the stick if you want to for each quarter roll; or do a slow entry for each quarter roll, except be careful you don't run out of room when doing one slowy.

  What matters is that the rate be constant and that the hesitations are visible, of constant duration, and obvious to the judge. If the hesitations are too short and not obvious, then, you know what's coming

  All the other items the book describes, apply of course, like hitting the points every 90 degrees, centering, and distance out, to name a few (in that order of importance and not belabor the obvious). 

  We in the JC just recently discussed certain issues wth point rolls. Don Ramsey will be writing an article for the KFactor and discussing these.

  BTW- remember that if you run out of room and you do not show the appropriate amount of straight and level before the turnaround, 2 point downgrade  on your TA for this infraction alone.

  Matt 
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