4 pt roll

[Don Ramsey]

I agree with Troy 100%.  It's up to you the pilot to present something to
the judge that he doesn't question.  That's true here and also with the
snap.  In the snap the pilot must present a definite break for the judge
(now that should open a can of worms).  Page 78 of the rule book, paragraph
1 under snaps, states "... the nose of the fuselage should show a definite
break from the flight path in the direction of the snap."  I read that to
mean the pilot should show the judge that definite break.

Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: 4 pt roll


> The key is it is up to you the pilot to define the roll enough so that the
> judge does NOT question it.....
>
> You can be right as rain and present hesitations that are quick with a
> slower roll rate and the judge may not see the hesitations as defined as
you
> think they are.....Its your job as a pilot to give him something to
> judge....If you open the door for a downgrade.....You will get it from
some
> judge.
>
>
> TN
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ronlock" <ronlock at comcast.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 8:03 AM
> Subject: Re: 4 pt roll
>
>
> > Agree,  hesitations must be equal or there is downgrade for
> > each one that's different.   Roll rate between them must be
> > equal.   If judge finds a point poorly defined, it's a downgrade.
> > If judge finds that a point is missing, there is severe downgrade
> > of 5 points or more.
> >
> > Ron Lockhart
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Glatt" <adam.g at sasktel.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: 4 pt roll
> >
> >
> > > Randy, as I understand it, as long as the roll stops it is long
enough.
> > > Then you have to ensure that each stop is the same length.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "glenn hatfield" <randy10926 at comcast.net>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>; "don szczur" <dszczur at maranatha.net>
> > > Sent: May 3, 2003 7:58 AM
> > > Subject: 4 pt roll
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The four-point roll is described as a 360 degree roll with
hesitations
> > > > at each 90 degree point.  Downgrades include not hesitating after
each
> > > > one-quarter roll.
> > > >
> > > > My question has to do with how long is a hesitation.  I saw very
> > > > flavors of hesitation from around a second to so short that you
could
> > > > barely see the pause.  So they ranged from about 4 seconds for the
> 4-pt
> > > > to around one second for the 4-pt.  Is it possible to get a
hestiation
> > > > too short and what is the downgrade if you can?
> > > >
> > > > Randy Hatfield
> > > > NSRCA 2422
> > > >
> > > >
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