Painting - What's Airbrush are U using

Thu May 1 15:22:13 AKDT 2003

Stephen,
I just bought a Sata Minijet 3 HVLP last year. Just starting to get used to
it, but it's one sweet machine. A little Internet shopping will find one for
a little over $200.00. A little pricey, but it'll stay with you and do
everything you want unless you get into full-scale or cars. I have a 1 hp
compressor which really isn't enough for an hvlp gun but I'm getting away
with it because I'm painting small areas. If I were buying new, I'd go with
a 5-hp. They don't cost much more and will fill all your future needs.

Verne

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tomic, Stephen" <stomic at CoorsTek.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 4:16 PM
Subject: Painting - What's Airbrush are U using

> What airbrush are you guys using ? I'm getting ready to purchase one (
> already have an air compressor) so any input would be welcome!
> Thanks,
> Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Verne Koester [mailto:verne at twmi.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:08 PM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: Painting
>
>
> Keith,
> Thanks, I've done this sort of thing before as well. In the current case,
> I'm trying to keep the paint job to the absolute minimum weight gain.
>
> Verne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at attbi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Painting
>
>
> > First off I need to point out that I'm a super duper novice at painting,
> but
> > I'm learning (the hard way in most cases). Also, given that I don't know
> > your color scheme my comments may not apply, but here it goes anyway.
> >
> > When I painted my Aries I tried to make sure to lay down the lighter
> colors
> > first and then cover with the darker colors. This allowed me to butt the
> > colors up to each other while only laying down one tape strip between
> > colors.
> >
> > For example, I painted the bottom 3/4 of the plane white with no masking
> at
> > all. Then I masked off everything I wanted to leave white and sprayed my
> > yellow coat. Note, that I didn't worry about masking areas that would be
> > painted the next color (red), I just allowed the yellow to overlap those
> > areas slightly. I then masked off everything I wanted to stay yellow or
> > white and sprayed my red coat. This means that the red was sprayed over
> the
> > yellow where the yellow and red meet, but since red easily covers yellow
I
> > didn't worry about it.  I then masked off everything except for a strip
I
> > wanted to paint dark blue and then sprayed the dark blue.
> >
> > To me this seemed like a good approach because laying down a tape strip
> > exactly on an existing color line seems like it would be very difficult
> and
> > error prone. I just didn't worry if an earlier color accidentally
sprayed
> on
> > a location that would be covered by a later (darker) color. BTW, my
seams
> > came out great.
> >
> > I suppose that my practices may be a bad idea in some cases if the color
> > being sprayed over a previous color is light enough to have its tint
> altered
> > by the lower color, however in my case it worked fine. After everything
> was
> > complete you wouldn't have any idea that there is yellow under the red,
> > white under the yellow, etc. Using this approach my seams came out fine.
> >
> > As to sanding the seams I was advised to wait until I had all colors
down
> > before sanding, however I never re-taped a seam as you are describing.
> >
> > Hopefully these comments aren't totally off in left field :-)
> >
> > Keith Black
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Painting
> >
> >
> > > Tom,
> > > Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for. May have to go back to
my
> > old
> > > scheme with white in between the colors. This is too much work!!!! Of
> > > course, the monocote will be easier w/o the white in between.....
> > >
> > > Verne
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:52 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Painting
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree about clear over base..it can be a pain. It is quick though.
I
> > > > unfortunately have gallons of the stuff..and I'm not changing
systems
> > > until
> > > > I use it all up!!!
> > > >
> > > > Down here its called PPG Cobra..the colours seem to be more vibrant
> than
> > > any
> > > > other system however.....looks great until the fuel gets under
it!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > In your case I would knock down the edges as you go, thats how I
used
> to
> > > do
> > > > it with a previous paint system.
> > > > Van is on the money about pulling the tape once it has gone a
little.
> As
> > > you
> > > > have shot the first colour already, pull the tape and then knock
down
> > the
> > > > edge, as Todd suggested.. For the following colours, do as Van
> > > > suggests...but you may still have to do a bit of sanding inbetween
> > > >
> > > > Fear not ..it will work out ok. Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Verne Koester[SMTP:verne at twmi.rr.com]
> > > > > Reply To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 12:36
> > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: Painting
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > > I've only shot one color so far using Concept. However, all the
tape
> > is
> > > in
> > > > > place for all the colors. The real question here is what to do
about
> > > each
> > > > > color after it's shot. Sand the little ridge right away, or just
> butt
> > up
> > > > > to
> > > > > it and sand after it's all done before the clear. BTW, this is the
> > first
> > > > > time I've tried Concept (from Radio South) and so far, I like it a
> > lot.
> > > > > Previously, I used PPG Acrylic Enamel and K&B Superpoxy. I've
never
> > > cared
> > > > > for the idea of the basecoat system for fear of it disintegrating
> > under
> > > > > the
> > > > > clear from fuel penetration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Verne
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> > > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:18 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Painting
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Verne,
> > > > > > I'm assuming you're already done and now have a ridge.
> > > > > > if you are using a clear -over base system ..be careful as they
do
> > not
> > > > > wet
> > > > > > sand well. The colours will 'bleed' into each other if you do.
> Just
> > > > > scuff
> > > > > > the edges dry with 1500 or finer , blow off the dust and then
wipe
> > > using
> > > > > a
> > > > > > lightly damp chamois. Metallic's should not be sanded at all if
> you
> > > can
> > > > > > avoid it, if you have to, do it in one direction only, no
circular
> > > > > sanding
> > > > > > at all. The scratches will show even under a clear coat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If it is a two pack colour already, go for your life and wet
sand
> > > > > lightly.
> > > > > > You will then probably need to do a final wet sand once all your
> > > colours
> > > > > are
> > > > > > down. Then give it a clear coat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For a real killer finish..then wet sand your clear coat and
> machine
> > > > > buff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From: Verne Koester[SMTP:verne at twmi.rr.com]
> > > > > > > Reply To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 11:45
> > > > > > > To: NSRCA
> > > > > > > Subject: Painting
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm in the process of painting my Smaragd and this is the
first
> > time
> > > > > I've
> > > > > > > chosen a color scheme where the colors butt up to each other.
In
> > the
> > > > > past,
> > > > > > > I've always used a white separation stripe between each color.
> My
> > > > > question
> > > > > > > is whether you wet sand the ridge at the tape line before you
> mask
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > next color, or do you just tape off the color that was already
> > > > > applied,
> > > > > > > pull off the previous masking tape and shoot the next one. I'm
> > using
> > > > > 3M
> > > > > > > fine-line tape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Verne
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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