intermediate 402 rolling suggestions

Del Rykert drykert at rochester.rr.com
Thu Jun 26 18:40:32 AKDT 2003


I agree with Ron and if you want to try something else slick add the elevator while in knife edge to make subtle track corrections that aren't easily spotted.
 
     Del K. Rykert
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ron Lockhart 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: intermediate 402 rolling suggestions


  Let me suggest an alternative and more subtle approach-

  Start feeding in a tiny bit of down elevator as the
  plane has rolled about 135 degrees, by the time the
  plane gets to 180 degrees have in as much elevator as
  it takes to be level inverted or a touch nose high.  
  As plane passes through 180 degrees of roll, start 
  taking out the down elevator so that it gone at 
  about 225 degrees of roll.  

  And maybe a secret - Use some "up" elvator.  
  As plane completes about 315 degrees of
  roll, start adding a tiny bit of up elevator increasing
  gradually so that when plane finishes 360 degrees of
  roll, nose is a touch higher than level to correct for
  the nose down attitude it may have gotten during the roll.
  Get out of the up elevator by the time the plane is
  45 degrees into the second roll.   

  Practice a couple of mistakes high.

  Whew.  It could be worse.  A couple of years ago the 
  maneuver was "three" consecutive rolls.

  Later,  Ron Lockhart


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: D Suding <junk at velocitus.net>
  Date: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:54 pm
  Subject: Re: intermediate 402 rolling suggestions

  > I noticed something in the Intermediate class while I was judging in
  > Albuquerque. The two horizontal rolls looked bad even when 
  > performed by
  > the best pilots. I think I know why.
  > 
  > First, you can't just throw the stick to the right or left and 
  > wait for
  > plane to roll 720 degrees. It will lose too much altitude.  You need
  > elevator.
  > 
  > Second, you don't start feeding the elevator when the plane gets 
  > past 90
  > degrees. This will make the plane cork-screw.  I kept seeing this. 
  > The
  > plane would roll 90 degrees, and the pilot would feed some elevator,
  > increasing as it went to 180, then decreasing as it followed 
  > through to
  > 270 and so on.
  > 
  > Here's what you do:
  > 
  > 1) Find a roll rate that takes about 1.5 seconds to roll 360 degrees.
  > 
  > 2) Here's the trick: DON'T ADD ANY ELEVATOR EXCEPT AT 180 and 360
  > DEGREES!!!!! When the plane gets to 180, give it a SHORT, SHARP down
  > elevator to pitch the nose up to level. Then at 360 degrees, give 
  > it a
  > SHORT, SHARP up elevator to pitch the nose up again.
  > 
  > Of course, to get picky, you actually start feeding elevator at ~175
  > degrees, but the key is to really limit the duration of the 
  > elevator input
  > so that your purpose is to correct for the effects of gravity only.
  > 
  > 3) Practice one thousand times.
  > 
  > Hope this helps.
  > 
  > -Dennis
  > 
  > 


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