Wrong Maneuver issues

[Tony Stillman]

I guess the southeast just has a bunch of weenie pilots that are too timid to complain.......Or more likely they don't see any problem with it.

I was in on a meeting where a past President of NSRCA told the group that "if you make a rule for pilots to fly by CLASS instead of by FREQUENCY, my local contest will be no more!  We'll we had been doing that for 10 years by that time, with no problems.  Now, if anyone tried to fly by frequecy INSTEAD of class, there would be riots!  

I'm also done with replying to this thread.  I am off to the F3A Team Selection Contest.  I'll try to post some pictures on my website as well.....

HOPE TO SEE MANY OF YOU THERE!

Tony Stillman
Radio South
3702 N. Pace Blvd.
Pensacola, FL 32505
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Henderson,Eric 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:21 AM
  Subject: RE: Wrong Maneuver issues


  So what are we fixing? Scribes????

  The big picture is that you must never lose sight of the pilot "experience" at a contest. If you make this a bad one they go away. If you lose pilots, the callers and scribes and judges don't have a job!

  Getting the caller to call out the maneuvers for the judges is interfering with the pilot caller relationship. Just swaying "it works down here" is not asking the pilot group if they like it. As pilots you are put in a situation where you object at your peril. Implied or real it's the same thing and that is bad for the sport.

  A judge was removed at the Nat's for demanding that the pilot helper call out the maneuvers. 

  I'd love to see how we would handle a Spanish or French speaking caller and their pilots.

  Fix the scribe problem first and stop messing up the pilot experience.

  Don't forget that a CD is a rep of the AMA and I quote, has a high level of responsibility of "properly applying the rules,maintaining fairness etc." . I think that making the callers do this would be seen as unfair. IMHO.

  There is a full blown appeal process to the AMA if you feel unfairly treated. I could see that the traffic in this area could get pretty busy.

  Regards,

  Eric.

  P.S. The good news I can't argue this anymore - off to #1 son's wedding (Instead of Sayre - bummer!)





  -----Original Message-----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Patternrules at aol.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:06 AM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: Wrong Maneuver issues


  I  think that the NAT'S is a great place to do it because of the scribe's that we use aren't that familiar with what we're doing and the caller is, as I remember right last year Kirk Gray had a real bad problem with a scribe, I'm not judging the person involved, it would be really bad for a pilot to get penalized for the action of a scribe that's not on top of things, especially, at the NAT'S.

  Steve Maxwell 
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