Wrong Maneuver issues

[Tony Stillman]

Bob:

Very well stated.  As I have said before, the most important people at an event are not the judges, but the score keeping crew!  If the scribe or score tabulators get it wrong, you have a problem, no matter how well you flew or how good/bad the judges are!  

The bottom line is that in actuality, there is no problem with having the caller call maneuvers loud enough that the judges can here.  We have been doing that for about 10 years here in the Southeast, with no problems that I know of.  Mike Harrison comes to many contests here, and he does not use a caller.  So, he gets someone to call for the judges.  Once again, no problem.

If it makes it easier for the judges, it should be considered.

Tony Stillman
Radio South
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Pensacola, FL 32505
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  Subject: Re: Wrong Maneuver issues


  Hi Eric

  I'll take these on

  In a message dated 6/11/03 1:00:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Eric.Henderson at gartner.com writes:



    The idea of callers "helping" judges sounds good but is not at all good in practice. 


  I want my caller to help the judges understand what we are doing, I've put a lot of 

    effort into this and if I can help the judges get it correct then that is to my benefit.

    First of all, you have to be close enough to hear. Pilots do not want or need maneuvers shouted at them or even given in full text descriptions.


  No need to shout and I have never found any need or suggested that the caller modify his call sheet in any way for the judges, just speak loud enough for the judges to hear, if the pilot can fly what is called I can judge it.  Usually this is simply speaking in a normal voice, rather than whispering in the pilots ear, like there is something secret here


    Secondly, some pilots do not actually have them called. 


  If the pilot does not want the maneuver called then the caller is free to call for the judges



    Thirdly, many pilots get the maneuvers verbalized in pairs so that they can set up for the next center maneuver.


  Again call for the pilot, just speak loud enough so the judges can hear, if the pilot can remember it long enough to fly it, I can remember it long enough to judge it.


     
    Last on this list, but not least, almost all pilots have the maneuver called before the current one is finished.


  Same thing, if the pilot can deal with it while flying then I can deal with it while judging.


     
    I am a big advocate of keeping the judges and the pilots apart in all ways during the flight.


  If that were the case I would have less issue with the scribes calling the maneuvers for the judges, one of my biggest issues is that if the scribes call the maneuvers then I hear the maneuver three times, once from the caller and once from each scribe, at three different times, probably in three different forms.  The reality is that I have never been to a local contest where the judges and pilots were separated and most fields don't have the room for this.  And none of the above would solve the issue of the additional manpower that having scribes requires.  

  Last on my list is the fact that, by the time I get to a contest, to compete, I have a great deal of time, effort and money invested so I WANT my caller to make it as easy for the judges to understand what if going on as possible.  If the scribe gets it wrong I as the pilot will get the poor score, so seems like having my caller present the maneuver description, as I chose to have it presented, is to my benefit.  Otherwise I'm at the mercy of a stranger of unknown talent, knowledge or experience.  

  My work here is done :-)

  Bob



     
    Regards,

    Eric.
      




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