Scoring Vs Judging

[Del Rykert]

Larry.
 
    Playing devils advocate here. Your semantics aside, I have seen many other variables determine the close competitor winners, than how the numbers are crunched. Weather, Judge burnout in chair to long, (loss in sharpness and concentration) Tearing eyes d/t elements, close call with another craft while having a barn burning flight etc. If we really want to address all the problems that influence the chosen order of finish one can look at many issues and reasons. Crunching numbers is just one of them. 
     Del 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jed241 at msn.com 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:43 PM
  Subject: Re: Scoring Vs Judging


  John,

  Thanks for your response...

  Let me make sure that everyone understands...,"I'm not attacking the judging in any way". This was only intended to spark discussion about the scoring and how it roles up. I thought I understood it correctly. I may have sparked some nerves which was not my intent...

  However, I'll engage in debate...

  ***Each round is normalized to the high raw score in each class. That makes each round a "mini-contest".***
  This would only be true if the number of rounds won was the deciding factor. Since the sum of the normalized rounds determines the winner, it is possible that the winner actually has a lower raw score total. As Matt stated, it's not probable that this would be the case. However, as the difference between two scores decrease, the potential becomes more likely.

  ***The most harsh set of judges have no more influence on the outcome than a more lenient set.***
  This can't be a correct statement if my theory and math is correct. The importance of consistency from judge to judge should be the priority in my opinion. I believe this is the focus of the NSRCA judging committee.

  ***We admit the judging process is flawed when we use two or more judges.***
  Actually, I think the "low average round" phenomena risk is reduced when using more than one judge per round. The averages should reduce the variance.

  Larry
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Ferrell 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:06 PM
    Subject: Re: Scoring Vs Judging


    Some comments in CAPS embedded in your post...

    Each round is normalized to the high raw score in each class. That makes each round a "mini-contest".

    The most harsh set of judges have no more influence on the outcome than a more lenient set.

    We admit the judging process is flawed when we use two or more judges. After all, if they were all perfect we would only need one per flight!

    We are always looking to do better in the judging & scoring department.

    John Ferrell 
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