O.S. 1.4 RX bearings

[Dave Smith]

Matt:   The engine ran fine.     As did another of my friends

Both on the first flight,and all subsequent flights.

Regards,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dave
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 12:09 AM
  Subject: Re: O.S. 1.4 RX bearings


  Dave,

  If you don't wash the grease out of your new bearing, it will wash out for you on the first flight. Your engine won't run very well during this flight and you will not be able to restart the engine for a second run, because your plug would be fouled

  There would be nothing wrong with the engine so don't panic; simply replace the plug and it will run fine after that.

  To avoid the hassle, just wash out the grease before you install it, and oil it with castor or synthetic, and you'll be fine.

  This happened to me about 20 years ago at a contest no less. If memory serves, the bearing had the thin metal plate "seals" on both sides, and I figgered it was like that for a reason. So I didn't bother to wash the grease out. Wrong move and a bad round of flying

  regards

  Matt


    Subj:Re: O.S. 1.4 RX bearings 
    Date:7/4/2003 9:21:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time
    From:dfs at navnet.net
    Reply-to:discussion at nsrca.org
    To:discussion at nsrca.org
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    Matt:   I just changed the rear bearing after 80 flights. I was curious as to its' condition.  No after run oil was used at all,and the bearing was in apparently good shape.

    I found it interesting that the replacement bearing (from O.S.) had nary a number or letter on it.   Also it was packed with grease,and either the seals had been removed,or never installed in the first place,as the outer race was recessed for seals.   A friend found the same when he bought a replacement bearing.

    A commercial industrial bearing supply house might be able to produce a bearing with larger balls,and thinner races,as per your suggestion.

    Regards,,,,,,,,,,,,,Dave


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Rcmaster199 at aol.com 
      To: discussion at nsrca.org 
      Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 7:32 PM
      Subject: Re: O.S. 1.4 RX bearings


      Bob,

      RPM and load are the killers of bearings, all else being equal. Larger props turning lower rpm should help the problem but the greater load does not. 

      I think dave hit it on the head: The OS bearing was intended for a smaller engine designed to turn a smaller load at the same rpm. 

      The 140 should be using a larger bearing with proportionately larger ball bearings . These in turn, would spin at proportionately slower rates when the engine is at speed, and their larger size would distribute the load better.

      In the meantime, I recommend that someone out there who uses the engine should try to find a bearing that uses thinner races and larger ball bearings. It's the smallish ball bearings turning too fast due to their small diameter, in the standard bearing, that wear out under the load of the 140.

      Another approach is what 3M Mintors have: two main bearings that look the same as the OS 140 bearing (but I have not actually measured these). The idea is better load distribution, but nothing is really being done about the rpm the balls are turning. 

      Overall, I prefer the WEBRA approach: Larger bearing all the way around. I expect the bearing to last for years.

      Matt Kebabjian



        Subj:Re: O.S. 1.4 RX bearings 
        Date:7/4/2003 3:45:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time
        From:rcaerobob at cox.net
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        Those of us who ran the old OS 61 RF's, pumped or not, remember when bearings lasted forever....UNTIL we started putting high pitch, high diameter props on the beasts.
            Now, we've just added more pitch and diameter over the years, and my experience has been that bearing life relates directly to those factors.  Of course lubrication, and moisture, certainly contribute, but most bearings I've dissassembled have had the balls and races brinnelled and beaten to death.  
            That starts plating flaking, and eats things...it could just be coincidence that they rust, too....








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