avoidance rule

Bill Mears bill at mears.com
Thu Jan 30 20:19:49 AKST 2003


Canted boxes would also have problems with dissimilar wind, and would 
lose the ability to use the runway as a reference line.

ronlock wrote:

> Have we thought through the sun in the box implications of
> off setting both flight lines 30 degrees?
>  
> Ron Lockhart
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: george kennie <mailto:geobet at gis.net>
>     To: discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
>     Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:13 PM
>     Subject: Re: avoidance rule
>
>     I kinda like Frank Grannelli's idea regarding separation which
>     could even be expanded upon by canting both flight lines 30
>     degrees from runway-parallel with the right station canted
>     right(away from left station) and left station canted
>     left.Landings and take-offs would still be aligned with the runway
>     but the rest of the flight aligned with the flight-line markers
>     marked on the ground. After all, how many mid-landing colisions
>     have you observed.Probably would eliminate 99% of all mid-airs and
>     could easily be accomodated at places like Muncie and probably
>     quite a few others.Might encourage a few of the more timid among
>     us, who might be reluctant to to put their investment at risk, to
>     put their bird in the air.
>     Georgie
>
>     Bill Glaze wrote:
>
>>     Lance:
>>     Yes, it is highly useful, in my opinion.  I've found myself
>>     flying formation aerobatics several times in IMAC, and was able
>>     to call a break.  Judges later said they were relieved that a
>>     break was called.  Did it avert a midair?  Really can't say, but
>>     it made me feel a whole lot more relieved, and I could
>>     concentrate a lot better.
>>     As far as midair avoidance, it's hard to say the avoidance rule
>>     did/didn't work if a midair didn't happen; kind of like trying to
>>     say how much crime was prevented by a certain law/procedure.
>>     Flying pattern, I sure would like to see it.
>>
>>     Bill Glaze
>>     BTW: I've never seen the rule abused; maybe it has been, but I've
>>     never heard it spoken of.
>>
>>     s.vannostrand at kodak.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     I'm not disagreeing, Croz, but here is my observation from
>>>     limited experience.  I've seen several midairs at contests,
>>>     unfortunately.  Each time was such a shock that no one saw it
>>>     coming.  In only one case (at the now infamous Temple 2001 where
>>>     7 planes were lost in one contest) were the planes even flying
>>>     in the same direction.  But even here, neither pilot saw the
>>>     other until it was too late.  Others of us did, but there wasn't
>>>     much we could do in the split second  before.
>>>         I'm curious to know is this is really beneficial in IMAC
>>>
>>>     --Lance
>>>

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