Gas Engine Comments

[Ron Van Putte]

Ted - Great response!  You are the first to say something nice about the 
First Place engines.  I was this close to ordering one from Sig (I am a 
dealer), but the negative comments stopped me.  I'm glad someone likes 
the engine.  I decided to get the ZDZ-50, since most people liked the 
engine and told me the -40 wouldn't be powerful enough for a 15 lb 
airplane.  Thanks.

Ron

  
Ted Sander wrote:

>OK Ron, maybe a real answer for you:
>
>I've flown a Hanger 9 CAP232, 76" for the past two years.  Year one had it
>equipped with a YS120SF, Slimline muffler, cast alum. motor mounts.  Decent
>performance, but not enough for trying 3D.  Closest I could come was with an
>APC 17x6 and 30% Helicopter YS fuel.  But, that worked out to about $5 per
>flight.
>
>Bought an FPE 2.4.  All up weight, except for the battery, was exactly the
>same as all the YS related stuff I took off!  Engine is currently turning
>7,400 with an APC 20x10.  After slightly more than one season, I'm still in
>love with it.  Great power, weight not much of an issue.  Always starts,
>just like the manual says.  The cons:  With stock muffler, is loud.  Stock
>muffler needs to be shimmed out from the exhaust port (auto gasket
>material), else it rubs on the body of the engine.  Locktite the muffler
>screws, and safety wire the muffler to the plane (screws vibrate loose).
>This is my only gasser, so not much to compare it to - others report that
>vibration is higher than some others.  It is very noticeable at low idle,
>but except for the muffler screws, there have been no side effects on the
>rest of the aircraft after 1 year of intensive use.  I may explore soft
>mounting it this winter....if the mood strikes.  I also plan to spend the
>big dollars for a CF 21x8 prop, to both give me even more 3D capability, and
>to be able to slow down quicker for decent landings (can't remember exact
>low idle - but do remember that it came out to be significantly lower than
>my YS was capable of!).  Would I buy another, even at full retail like this
>one?  YES!  (and 22 cents per flight is way cool!!!!)
>
>Ted Sander
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
>Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:07 AM
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: Gas Engine Comments
>
>This is a bit off topic, but I am in the market for a gas engine for an
>80" World Models Extra 300 I just ordered.  I'm looking at the ZDZ-40,
>ZDZ-50, 3W-50 or a First Place 2.4.  I'm leaning toward the First Place
>2.4, simply because I am a dealer and can get them from Sig, while
>e-mails to the 3W and ZDZ people went unanswered.  I know you guys never
>have any opinions <BG>, but can anyone offer comments about the engines'
>relative merits?
>
>Ron Van Putte
>
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