Trainer for youngs

[Wayne Galligan]

hmmm dont remember that but with h.d. silk and Hobbi-Poxy paint it was
pretty durable.

WG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Trainer for youngs



On Dec 18, 2003, at 5:20 PM, Wayne Galligan wrote:

> I remember .....    way back....  An airplane I flew that was a
> shoulder
> wing. semi-symmetrical airfoil step up from the basic trainer and it
> was
> called a Fledgling.  Forgot who made it but was an easy plane to fly
> as my
> second airplane and would do a lot of stunts.   Would have been a good
> trainer too.

I remember the Fledgling.  It flew great, but the kit was terrible.
The 'balsa crunched' ribs and formers were a sight to behold.

Ron Van Putte

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Xavier Mouraux" <xavier.mouraux at sympatico.ca>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:11 PM
> Subject: Trainer for youngs
>
>
>> From the experience in my club, I agree that the young ones outgrow
>> the
>> standard trainer very quickly. Usually, they fly inverted within the
>> first
>> month and they want a better plane within 2.
>> The parents don't understand why they should buy a new one since the
>> first
>> plane is only 2 months old. We usually lose the guy. That's why I
> recommend
>> the next level of airplane with non-flat bottom and even low wing if
>> possible to the pilot under 15 or 20, specially if they have RC car
>> experience. A Four Star or a Tiger would do. It will be a little more
>> difficult at first but that is a good thing, as it will show them it
>> is
> not
>> a toy. Once they got over the first few flights, they will have enough
> left
>> in the plane for some time. These plane are always fun to fly once in
>> a
>> while anyway even after a few years of flying.
>> I haven't been able to get someone to try my way instead of the hobby
>> shop
>> way yet but I think it would work.
>> Have fun
>>
>> Xavier
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>; <discussion at nsrca.org>;
>> <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:42 AM
>> Subject: RE: Winter projects
>>
>>
>> I'll chime in since I JUST bought an arf for my 7yr old son for
>> christmas
>> yesterday...  I'll be more generic though...focus on the airfoil, and
> avoid
>> the flat bottom trainers.  I went with a Great Planes Stik, just
>> because
> it
>> was convienient, but I think any shoulder wing semi or full
>> symmetrical
>> airfoil is your best bet for that age.  I had my son on a buddy box
>> twice
>> last year...total of 25min flying time...and after 5 minutes of pure
>> hell
>> (him mashing the sticks to the corners) he settled down and on the
>> second
>> tank, flew virtually the entire flight doing both loops and single
>> rolls.
>>
>> It will take a bit to get him landing...but they're sponges at that
> age...I
>> think he'd outgrow a flat bottom airfoil in a HURRY.  So I decided to
> trade
>> a small amount of stability, for a HUGE increase in potential
>> aerobatic
>> performance.
>>
>> By the way those flights this past year were on a Hobbico
>> Avistar...flew
>> great....the covering was cheesy (stick on...an older arf...that may
>> have
>> changed) so I went with the GP arf which is monokote.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Hughes [mailto:jhughes at hsonline.net]
>> Sent: Thu 12/18/2003 7:28 AM
>> To: discussion at nsrca.org; discussion at nsrca.org
>> Cc:
>> Subject: RE: Winter projects
>>
>> John,
>> Your right about a lot of reccomendations! I taught a 55 year old guy
>> to fly a sig kadet ARF this summer. He soloed after 3 flights on the
>> buddy box! That plane will land itself.
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>> Nat –
>>>
>>> You will probably get a lot of recommendations, but our club’s
>>> experience over the past 5-8 years is that you can’t beat the Hobbico
>>> Avistar. Semi symmetrical wing so you can get to inverted flight on
>> it,
>>> yet it flies and lands as slowly as you could want. Get the one
>> without
>>> the engine and add an OS or TT .46 bb engine instead of the cheap .40
>>> that comes with the more complete setup.
>>>
>>> John Petterson
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-
>> request at nsrca.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Nat Penton
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:52 PM
>>> To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>> Subject: Re: Winter projects
>>>
>>> It is getting late in the game, but regardless, I need to buy a
>> present
>>> for a 7 year old. Who makes the best quality ARF trainer ?
>>> natpenton at centurytel.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
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