Winter / Focus / Fuel

Thu Dec 4 07:15:24 AKST 2003

As people are different, one practice regiment is not likely the best for everyone.  For me, early in the season, more flights in a given session are better - towards the end of a season, I definitely get more out of the first couple flights and more flights after that don't help me much - unless it is with a different airplane or practicing a different set of manuevers - and even then, I still learn/progress the fastest on flights towards the beginning of a session.  In 2001 and 2002, I burned about 60 gallons of fuel - probably 50 of it the pattern plane from about May through early November.  In 2003, I had a record year - burning about 80 gallons (800 flights for me)in the pattern plane and another 15 or so in sport stuff.

For Troy - as you are in the somewhat unique situation of having had the day job (limiting toy airplane time, less flexibility) and now have more flexibility <G> - 
- how much did you fly before compared to now?
- what aspect(s) helped the most -ie, simply more stick time, more stick time on the pattern plane, more familiarity with the equipment, etc.

Regards,

Dave Lockhart
DaveL322 at comcast.net
> 
> Troy,
> 
> Your practice schedule makes me tired just reading it, let alone flying 
> that much.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Dean Pappas wrote:
> 
> > I hear you, Ed!
> > 	Dean
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Miller [mailto:edbon85 at optonline.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:16 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Winter / Focus / Fuel
> > 
> > 
> > I guess the real question is, does anyone work ?? : )
> > Ed M.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Troy Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Winter / Focus / Fuel
> > 
> > 
> > > Georgie,
> > >
> > > In California I was flying 5-6 days a week. Usually 8-10 flights a day.
> > And
> > > Its a 20oz tank. I can get about 8-10 flights per gallon. There were a few
> > > days in there I did 8 flights per model on 2 different models....Go in the
> > > morning and fly 4 flights per plane then go chill out till about 4pm and

> > > then get another 4 flights per plane...for 16 a day.
> > >
> > > I was averaging about 40-50 flights a week for about 18 weeks for about
> > 685
> > > flights in 4 months.  Then the Team Trials hit in mid June...I was flying
> > > the full 10-15 flights a day for a week.. NATS it was about 30-40 flights
> > a
> > > week for 2-3 more weeks.
> > >
> > > My log book shows just over 800 (826 actual)  flights before NATS week on
> > > two models. I stuck about 25-30 flights for practice and competition NATS
> > > week (9rds-about 17 practice flights). So thru NATS week its 850 or so
> > > flights....Getting 8 flights a gallon is 26 cases thru the NATS...
> > >
> > > Then since the NATS its been slow...maybe 300 flights in 4+ months.
> > >
> > > this hits over 1100 for the season...and counting. I'm going down to
> > Florida
> > > for the winter Tangerine contest Dec 13-14...
> > >
> > > Its P-05 time now!
> > >
> > >
> > > Enjoy the snow....T-Bone and I are ready if you guys want to kick it in
> > the

> > > Orlando Area for a few days. We will probably head down Thursday night and
> > > then spend Friday practicing.
> > >
> > > Troy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "george kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
> > >
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Winter / Focus / Fuel
> > >
> > >
> > > > Northeast coast of Mass, fly approx. 150 to 175 flights a year on about
> > > > 16 gallons.
> > > > I can't conceive of anyone burning 80 gals in four months. Lets see,  16
> > > > weeks @ flying 4 times a week, four flights per session, 256 flights @
> > > > 16 oz.per, ....we're up to 32 gallons, that's 8 cases, hmmm, let's see
> > > > Troy says 28 cases,   c'mon guys, there's such a thing as eating and
> > > > sleeping. I gotta be missing something here. No wonder these guys don't
> > > > do any building.
> > > > Georgie
> > > >
> > > > "Atwood, Mark" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That begs an  interesting question.
> > > > >

> > > > > How much fuel do people burn in a calendar year?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested to hear responses and where you're from (or maybe
> > more
> > > specifically, how many months that fuel is spread over.
> > > > >
> > > > > In a competitive year (the last three not withstanding) I was burning
> > > 40-50 gal over 3.5 - 4 months (late May - Mid Sept.)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:   Anthony Abdullah [mailto:aabdu at sbcglobal.net]
> > > > > Sent:   Wed 12/3/2003 9:58 AM
> > > > > To:     discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Cc:
> > > > > Subject:        Re: Winter
> > > > >
> > > > > Silly question / observation.
> > > > >
> > > > > You would think with the advantage of an extended flying season,
> > ceteras
> > > perabus, the nats champion in every class would be someone from a warm
> > > weather state the majority of the time. Perhaps that is the case as I am
> > not
> > > sure where all the top competitors are from. I do know that a couple of my

> > > neighbors to the immediate north west are always very competitive, and the
> > > Ohio contingent has not exactly embarrassed themselves, present company
> > > excluded of course. Maybe there is an advantage to a flying off season
> > when
> > > it comes to being able to focus. Bob Fortino is the picture of focus and
> > > concentration, I wonder if he could keep up that level of intense
> > > concentration for a 10 month flying season. Not to mention what he would
> > > spend on fuel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a random thought as I watch the winter winds blow across frigid
> > > lake Erie.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> wrote:
> > > > > I know that feeling all to well as I lived in the frigid confines of
> > > > > northern Iowa years ago... you could get some serious building done in
> > > the
> > > > > winter months. Then I got to Texas as fast as I could and not
> > regretting
> > > it
> > > > > one moment. But you are right about the changes. Here I am building
> > and

> > > > > flying at the same time seems. Two planes ready for next year now so I
> > > > > knock on wood all I have to do this winter,spring,summer,fall is
> > fly...
> > > > > heh! heh! (no bad feelings at all)
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayne G.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Atwood, Mark"
> > > > > To: ;
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:57 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Winter
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel bad for you "year round" flyers. Not sure how you stay
> > "excited"
> > > > > about the sport. In this neck of the woods (Cleveland) we have a
> > pretty
> > > > > even split...6 months of building, 6 months of flying. Without it, I'd
> > > have
> > > > > been burnt out years ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > As it is now...come September, October...I'm tired of dragging the
> > plane
> > > to
> > > > > the field...and start to get an itch to clean the workshop, and embark
> > > on a
> > > > > new project (This year is ambitious for me...2 35% IMAC planes,
> > Painting
> > > a

> > > > > new all composite Pattern plane, some comprehensive repairs, and a new
> > > > > trainer for my son (building from scratch with a 7 year old is
> > ambitious
> > > all
> > > > > by itself))
> > > > >
> > > > > Come April..and the Toledo show...The desire to get out and fly is
> > > almost
> > > > > overwhelming. I get to start the season with a whole new lust for the
> > > > > sport.
> > > > >
> > > > > On days like today...cold, windy, dreary...I'm jealous. But in
> > general,
> > > > > I'll keep changing seasons...and changing hobbies :):):)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wayne Galligan [mailto:wgalligan at goodsonacura.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tue 12/2/2003 1:46 PM
> > > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > Cc:
> > > > > Subject: Re: Winter
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sunday, 65 degrees light winds. 6 flights... two on the Entropy and 4
> > on
> > > > > the Aries... plenty of fuel... ran out of daylight.
> > > > >
> > > > > WG
> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From:
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Winter
> > > > >
> > > > > Winter has been here for a while now. I have about 44 inches of snow
> > on
> > > > > the ground and it was a balmy -17F when I left for work. In the center
> > > of
> > > > > the state it was a little cold at -60F. Ahhh cant wait for spring.
> > Come
> > > > > on May.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Laggis
> > > > >
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