Fuel Weights?

Brian Young b4598070 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 27 08:32:33 AKDT 2003


So when you purchase by the drum do you use it all
yourself? It would take me a year to burn 55 gallons,
so does it keep well and do you put nitrogen on top or
anything?

Do they do 30 Gallon drums....


--- John Ferrell <johnferrell at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I don't believe that a really high level of
> precision is required for this. Consistency is
> pretty important, changing to a new jug of the same
> brand should not require any adjusting. I have been
> using Red Max for several years with no fuel
> problems. I buy by the drum and go after it. That
> allows direct communications with the folks that put
> it together. It is a "nothing by chance" operation.
> They promise that you will get at least a gallon in
> every jug, and the best mix they can provide. They
> will not disclose the details of their oil because
> that is what sets one vendor apart from another. 
> 
> One very interesting detail I have learned from them
> is that competition fuel has LESS oil but more
> precise measurement that Sport fuel. The reasoning
> is that Sport flyers need a broader needle setting
> while the Competition flyer should be more receptive
> to a tighter needle setting for the sake of
> performance. 
> 
> As I understand it, the quality issues are with the
> oil and the moisture content. There is little value
> in reducing the moisture content below what you can
> maintain in the fueling process. The oil is the real
> mystery. The last time I priced Klotz KL200 by the
> case it was over $6 per quart. Nitro works out
> somewhere between $20 & $30 per gallon. You can buy
> Red Max 20% Nitro fuel for roughly $9 per gallon in
> 54 gallon drums. BTW, the drums are always full 55
> gallon drums. That way they are sure to give you the
> 54 gallons they promised. The race car guys are
> amazed that I pay twice as much for 2 drums of model
> fuel as they do for 6 drums of Methanol.
> 
> It is a common strategy in the race car business to
> set an engine up so loose for qualifying that it
> would never be able to complete a race. 
> 
> When a car seems to run away from the rest of the
> pack it is usually because he lost the oil. Less
> friction, more go, easy win but it costs an engine!
> 
> I cannot back up any of this, but I do believe it!
> John Ferrell
> 6241 Phillippi Rd
> Julian NC 27283
> Phone: (336)685-9606
> johnferrell at earthlink.net
> Dixie Competition Products
> NSRCA 479 AMA 4190  W8CCW
> "My Competition is Not My Enemy"
>  
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Gray E Fowler 
>   To: discussion at nsrca.org 
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:16 AM
>   Subject: Re: Fuel Weights?
> 
> 
> 
>   Brain has this dead right.  The fuel guys, if the
> have half a brain will always mix by weight OR
> choose to temperature control their stock-and that
> is not so easy. Ever try to cool or warm 1000 gallon
> tank of methanol? So they (should) mix by weight and
> then for those of you who NEED volume do the math
> and there it is. Any fuel guy blending by volume
> without temp control will have a product that
> varies, and then complaints from users like us who
> actually check performance on a regular basis.
> 
> 
> 


=====
Brian Young
Tulsa
b4598070 at yahoo.com
918-745-6046h
918-838-0900w

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