Painting

[jim ivey]

Keith
You did it the simplest and most logical. I use your method also.

Jim Ivey


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Black" <tkeithb at attbi.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Painting


> First off I need to point out that I'm a super duper novice at painting,
but
> I'm learning (the hard way in most cases). Also, given that I don't know
> your color scheme my comments may not apply, but here it goes anyway.
>
> When I painted my Aries I tried to make sure to lay down the lighter
colors
> first and then cover with the darker colors. This allowed me to butt the
> colors up to each other while only laying down one tape strip between
> colors.
>
> For example, I painted the bottom 3/4 of the plane white with no masking
at
> all. Then I masked off everything I wanted to leave white and sprayed my
> yellow coat. Note, that I didn't worry about masking areas that would be
> painted the next color (red), I just allowed the yellow to overlap those
> areas slightly. I then masked off everything I wanted to stay yellow or
> white and sprayed my red coat. This means that the red was sprayed over
the
> yellow where the yellow and red meet, but since red easily covers yellow I
> didn't worry about it.  I then masked off everything except for a strip I
> wanted to paint dark blue and then sprayed the dark blue.
>
> To me this seemed like a good approach because laying down a tape strip
> exactly on an existing color line seems like it would be very difficult
and
> error prone. I just didn't worry if an earlier color accidentally sprayed
on
> a location that would be covered by a later (darker) color. BTW, my seams
> came out great.
>
> I suppose that my practices may be a bad idea in some cases if the color
> being sprayed over a previous color is light enough to have its tint
altered
> by the lower color, however in my case it worked fine. After everything
was
> complete you wouldn't have any idea that there is yellow under the red,
> white under the yellow, etc. Using this approach my seams came out fine.
>
> As to sanding the seams I was advised to wait until I had all colors down
> before sanding, however I never re-taped a seam as you are describing.
>
> Hopefully these comments aren't totally off in left field :-)
>
> Keith Black
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Painting
>
>
> > Tom,
> > Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for. May have to go back to my
> old
> > scheme with white in between the colors. This is too much work!!!! Of
> > course, the monocote will be easier w/o the white in between.....
> >
> > Verne
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: Painting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I agree about clear over base..it can be a pain. It is quick though. I
> > > unfortunately have gallons of the stuff..and I'm not changing systems
> > until
> > > I use it all up!!!
> > >
> > > Down here its called PPG Cobra..the colours seem to be more vibrant
than
> > any
> > > other system however.....looks great until the fuel gets under it!!!!!
> > >
> > > In your case I would knock down the edges as you go, thats how I used
to
> > do
> > > it with a previous paint system.
> > > Van is on the money about pulling the tape once it has gone a little.
As
> > you
> > > have shot the first colour already, pull the tape and then knock down
> the
> > > edge, as Todd suggested.. For the following colours, do as Van
> > > suggests...but you may still have to do a bit of sanding inbetween
> > >
> > > Fear not ..it will work out ok. Good luck.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Verne Koester[SMTP:verne at twmi.rr.com]
> > > > Reply To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 12:36
> > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > Subject: Re: Painting
> > > >
> > > > Tom,
> > > > I've only shot one color so far using Concept. However, all the tape
> is
> > in
> > > > place for all the colors. The real question here is what to do about
> > each
> > > > color after it's shot. Sand the little ridge right away, or just
butt
> up
> > > > to
> > > > it and sand after it's all done before the clear. BTW, this is the
> first
> > > > time I've tried Concept (from Radio South) and so far, I like it a
> lot.
> > > > Previously, I used PPG Acrylic Enamel and K&B Superpoxy. I've never
> > cared
> > > > for the idea of the basecoat system for fear of it disintegrating
> under
> > > > the
> > > > clear from fuel penetration.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Verne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> > > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:18 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Painting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Verne,
> > > > > I'm assuming you're already done and now have a ridge.
> > > > > if you are using a clear -over base system ..be careful as they do
> not
> > > > wet
> > > > > sand well. The colours will 'bleed' into each other if you do.
Just
> > > > scuff
> > > > > the edges dry with 1500 or finer , blow off the dust and then wipe
> > using
> > > > a
> > > > > lightly damp chamois. Metallic's should not be sanded at all if
you
> > can
> > > > > avoid it, if you have to, do it in one direction only, no circular
> > > > sanding
> > > > > at all. The scratches will show even under a clear coat.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is a two pack colour already, go for your life and wet sand
> > > > lightly.
> > > > > You will then probably need to do a final wet sand once all your
> > colours
> > > > are
> > > > > down. Then give it a clear coat.
> > > > >
> > > > > For a real killer finish..then wet sand your clear coat and
machine
> > > > buff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: Verne Koester[SMTP:verne at twmi.rr.com]
> > > > > > Reply To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 April 2003 11:45
> > > > > > To: NSRCA
> > > > > > Subject: Painting
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm in the process of painting my Smaragd and this is the first
> time
> > > > I've
> > > > > > chosen a color scheme where the colors butt up to each other. In
> the
> > > > past,
> > > > > > I've always used a white separation stripe between each color.
My
> > > > question
> > > > > > is whether you wet sand the ridge at the tape line before you
mask
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > > > next color, or do you just tape off the color that was already
> > > > applied,
> > > > > > pull off the previous masking tape and shoot the next one. I'm
> using
> > > > 3M
> > > > > > fine-line tape.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Verne
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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