Advanced sequence ?

[s.vannostrand at kodak.com]

Eric is right about the AMA rule book being vague on this point, however, 
the judging committee provided a more detailed interpretation that should 
be used.  This is why our nsrca judging committee exists.  At 2002 Nats, 
the judging committee clarification was read/reviewed with all the 
Advanced pilots at the pilot meeting to be sure that everyone knew that we 
would be judged based on the NSRCA clarification to the AMA rule, not just 
the AMA rule.

I think the clarification is judgeable and clear.  I would assume all CDs 
would communicate the same information at local contests, because it  is 
clear that this is the criteria used at Nats.  See the NSRCA web site for 
details.

--Lance





"Henderson,Eric" <Eric.Henderson at gartner.com>
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When this schedule was submitted (7/99) the spin description was not 
written in detail. There had been, and were, existing down-lines after 
spins with  1/4 loop with 1/2 roll exits. I have seen some odd 
interpretations about how long the down-line should be and when the 1/2 
roll should be performed. 
 
>From a judging point of view there is no AMA rule book specification of 
how long the down-line has to be. I have not seen a rule book 
specification of any required horizontal line length other than an exit 
line. Seeing as how it is the last maneuver in the box the only real limit 
is getting it done before you leave the box.  :-)
 
Is there an AMA rule book description that I have missed that gives a 
better judging guideline???
 
Regards,
 
Eric.
 
 
 
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From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP (Test Ops)
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http://modelaircraft.org/templates/ama/PDF-files/Rulebook/rc-aero2002.PDF
 
Also, I'd add follow this link and read the maneuver descriptions.  It is 
more than good reading if it has been a while......
 
Jim W.
 
 
It is a 2 1/2 turn spin, push to horizontal, then half roll to upright.
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tomanek, Wojtek 
To: 'discussion at nsrca.org' 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Advanced sequence ?
 
Wow, that is a diffrent interpretation of how I have been flying it. On 
the NSRCA call sheet the manuever is described as " 2 1/2 turn spin with a 
half roll out". Silly me I have been practicing a 2 1/2 turn spin with an 
established downline then half roll in the downline followed by more 
downline (hope I started real high) then an upright exit. Am I to 
understand that the actual manuever is "2 1/2 turn spin exit inverted half 
roll out" to landing? 
Does there exist a set of drawings for these manuevers somewhere? My old 
AMA rule book does not have them.

"Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com> wrote:
I believe that it does not matter, when coming out of the spin you  need 
to pause going down, then level the plane (90 deg) to a horizontal flight, 
then pause (straight inverted flight)  and then roll.  The pause shall not 
be larger than the radius of the downline to horizontal transition but it 
has to be there unlike in the Immelman 
"2 1/2 turn spin exit inverted half roll out" to landing?" = correct, but 
better announce that landing
 
 
 

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