E=MC3

Wed Apr 2 06:39:15 AKST 2003

Jerry

Am I reading this correctly "... but > it came out nose heavy so I had it
moved back 1-1/8" from there to > get it to balance properly" ??
Did you mean tail heavy?

BTW, great pictures and color scheme.  Also, moving wing up gives more
stability (effect of increased dihedral) so reducing some dihedral is
probably in order.  Glad it is flying well.  

Wojtek

Do you remember practicing at the NATS and changing servos (throttle if I
remember correctly)?

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Jeff Hughes [mailto:jhughes at hsonline.net] 
Sent:	Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:25 AM
To:	discussion at nsrca.org
Subject:	Re: E=MC3

That sounds like a lot of work! Glad it flies good. Is Dick still 
selling pattern kits?

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> The E=MC3 is an E=MC2 with a bunch of modifications that I decided 
to 
> implement to try to improve the baseline design.  I flew a used 
E=MC2 
> for several years that I had purchased from Kirk Sutherland in 
> Tennessee.  It exhibited a number of good-to-excellent flying 
> qualities, but like most airplanes there was still room for 
> improvement.  Also, I was wanting an airplane that was reminiscent 
of 
> the classic Pylon Racer designs such as the Cosmic Wind as I think 
> it's distinctive and presents well, both on the ground, and in the 
> air.  Here's the construction mod's:
> 
> 1)  Raise the wing 2".  No, that's NOT a typo.  2".  During 
> construction I also had the wing moved forward 3/4" (bad idea), but 
> it came out nose heavy so I had it moved back 1-1/8" from there to 
> get it to balance properly.  My recommendation is if you're using a 
> 4-stroke, don't move the wing either fore or aft from stock.  If 
> you're running a 2-stroke motor like I am (especially if you tend to 
> build a bit heavy) you may want to consider moving the wing aft 1/2" 
> from the location shown on the plans.  The wing dihedral was left at 
> the stock amount.  The next one I build will have the geometric 
> dihedral reduced by 1/3 to attempt to eliminate the small amount of 
> residual proverse roll coupling.
> 
> 2)  3-1/2 degrees right thrust, 1/2 degree down thrust (I believe 
the 
> stock E=MC2 design is 0-0).
> 
> 3)  Replacement of the stock pipe channel with a custom one 
> fabricated from carbon fiber that allows the ES pipe to be 
completely 
> flush mounted.  The channel is extremely long, extending aft ~42" 
> from the glow plug, allowing for unobstructed experimentation of 
> tuned pipe system(s) set to almost any length.  I've given some 
> thought to offering the pipe channel for sale in limited quantities 
> as it can likely be used on a number of planes other than the 
E=MC2/3 
> (for those that are interested, please send me an eMail and let me 
> know.  If these is enough interest shown I may go ahead and have 
some 
> fabricated).
> 
> 4)  Small cheek cowlings that while functional, are largely cosmetic 
in nature.
> 
> 5)  I had the ailerons and elevator halves fabricated so that they 
> didn't fully extend out to the wing/stab tips.  While counter to the 
> current trend, I like being able to visually check whether a warp 
has 
> crept into a flight control surface.
> 
> 6)  Since the wing was raised and the pipe tunnel deepened, I was 
> able to use a one-piece Chris Dalby carbon fiber landing gear 
> (available from RC Model Enterprises, 
> http://home.att.net/~rc-enterprises/rcme_017.htm) mounted external 
to 
> the main fuselage.  It's much thinner and lighter than the two piece 
> carbon fiber gear, and also has a torsion effect in that it "gives" 
> in the fore and aft direction similar to the way wing-mounted wire 
> landing gear relieve under loading.
> 
> Did the mods work?  I think so based on my own observations and also 
> the comments I've gotten from those who have flown it:
> 
> Tony Frackowiak - "easily the best pattern airplane I've ever flown"
> Greg Frohreich - "you've fixed everything that was wrong with the 
> E=MC2 design and made it a competitive airplane again", "it flies 
> just like my Smaragd"
> Troy Newman - "this is by far the best E=MC I've ever flown"
> Frank Kelley - "this flies exactly like my HydeOut/Away
> 
> There's a link to some photo's of the E=MC3 on my website:
> 
> http://www.buddengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=E
> 
> 
> Thx, Jerry
> 
> 
> >Jerry,
> >I've seen a couple of references now to the emc3. I assume its a 
variation
> >of Dick Hansons' emc2? What is the difference?
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Jerry Budd <>
> >To: <discussion at nsrca.org>; <pattern at rcmailinglists.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Pattern] 3M-140 For Sale
> >
> >
> >>  >Hey Jerry,
> >>  >    which engine do you prefer: the OS1.40RX or the Webra 1.45? 
Why?
> >>  >    Thanks,
> >>  >      Will B.
> >>
> >>  Hi Will,
> >>
> >>  I like the Webra a bit better than the OS but they both have 
their
> >>  merits.  I'm running them interchangeably in the same airplane
> >  > (E=MC3) on Magnum #1, OS-F or YS plug, ES-2C140L90 pipe set at
> >>  23-1/4" baffle to plug, stock Mac's 2-1/4" rise header, and an 
APC
> >>  17x12 prop.  Here's the differences:
> >>
> >>  Webra:  8200-8300 rpm with the Webra MC (mixture control) carb 
gives
> >>  a dead linear throttle response with NO jump onto the pipe.  
Setup
> >>  this way the motor performs and throttles exactly the same as a 
DZ.
> >>  With the stock ProMix carb it throttles a lot like the OS (see
> >>  below).  This is with a relatively new, low time motor (~20 
flights).
> >>
> >>  OS: 8300-8400 rpm with the stock OS carb, slight burble at mid-
range
> >>  transition, moderate jump onto the pipe around half throttle.  
The
> >>  motor goes slightly lean momentarily during inverted pushes 
during
> >>  the second half of the 20 oz tank.  My first OS in the same 
airplane
> >>  exhibited the same characteristic.  This is a motor with around 
30
> >>  flights on it.
> >>
> >>  The OS carb has a somewhat bigger throat than the Webra carb 
which
> >>  probably explains the power difference, but may also cause the
> >>  throttle linearity/burble/momentary lean discrepancy.  The OS 
also
> >>  seems to have significantly more bearing problems, although that
> >>  seems to be corrosion related and managed by switching to 
stainless
> >>  steel bearings.
> >>
> >>  I think the 3M-140 motor is comparable to an average OS in 
power, but
> >>  it throttles much better in the mid-range.  It would make an
> >>  excellent motor for a 9.75-10.5 lb mid-body airplace such as a 
Focus,
> >>  Temptation, HydeAway, Angel's Shadow, etc.
> >>
> >>  Thx, Jerry
> >>  --
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> >>  Jerry Budd
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