Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging

[Rcmaster199 at aol.com]

This is interesting. Folks have obviously received my post and have answered 
it. But I have not received it yet, although I have received the answers. 
Isn't AOL grand?? Wonder how many other postings I have missed?

Tony is correct of course. Don't know what I was thinking. The FAI rules are 
explicit on this issue. It was not my intent to mislead anyone, and the last 
thing I wanted is to take the focus off the point I was making. Regardless, 
my point still stands

Matt K

In a message dated 9/23/2002 9:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
tony at radiosouthrc.com writes:


> Subj:Re: Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging 
> Date:9/23/2002 9:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From:<A HREF="mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com">tony at radiosouthrc.com</A>
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> 
> 
> Bob:
> 
> I think Matt was saying that he might as well as land.  The only 
> requirement to make a pilot land is something falling off the model in 
> flight, or passing behind the zero line multiple times, earning zeros.  
>  
> Tony Stillman
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> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A> 
>> To: <A HREF="mailto:discussion at nsrca.org">discussion at nsrca.org</A> 
>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging
>> 
>> 
>> A question....Matt suggested that an FAI pilot is required to land for 
>> doing an incorrect maneuver?   I'm not sure I understand that, and I don't 
>> think that's what Matt meant, but I'd like to know....anyone?
>> 
>> Bob Pastorello
>> NSRCA 199, AMA 46373
>> <A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob at cox.net">rcaerobob at cox.net</A>
>> <A HREF="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A>
>> 
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <A HREF="mailto:Rcmaster199 at aol.com">Rcmaster199 at aol.com</A> 
>>> To: <A HREF="mailto:discussion at nsrca.org">discussion at nsrca.org</A> 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> This happened to us at this year's Nats: 
>>> 
>>> I, along with two others, judged F3A on site 3, the last day of 
>>> preliminary flying. Things were moving right along, callers calling and 
>>> pilots flying, and we simply judged as best we could. Some distance down 
>>> the order, a very capable competitor, (all F3A competitors that I saw on 
>>> that line were very capable), was given a maneuver out of sequence to 
>>> perform, which he did. 
>>> 
>>> I felt something was off immediately, placed a dot at that maneuver, and 
>>> continued scoring on my pad (RVP's idea and I like it). I was familiar 
>>> with the PO3 sequence since I call it for my friend back home, but was 
>>> not certain of what exactly the deviation was,  since the caller had 
>>> called it that way. He got it wrong and the pilot flew it wrong. 
>>> 
>>> A considerable amount of my concentration as a judge was blown when I 
>>> noticed the problem. I am fairly certain the competitor knew his flight 
>>> was burned as well. Without full concentration, he stopped flying to his 
>>> ability and I stopped judging to mine. In truth he needed to land the 
>>> plane per F3A rules, but since I wasn't sure what he had done, I allowed 
>>> him to finish the flight
>>> 
>>> My point is, judging is difficult to do well; it is a chore to be sure, 
>>> but it is also the most important chore in a contest. Familiarity alone 
>>> is not enough if we sit the chair. Having the caller call the maneuvers 
>>> out loud is obviously not foolproof. This was not the first time this has 
>>> happened and will not be the last. 
>>> 
>>> My answer to this is, PREPARE TO SIT THE CHAIR; one cannot simply be 
>>> "familiar with the sequence" as the Certification class teaches. One must 
>>> have a working knowledge of the sequence. It is our responsibility and 
>>> duty to do the best possible job judging the people who have worked so 
>>> hard to get themselves ready. Anything less and we are derelict in our 
>>> duty. 
>>> 
>>> Respectfully submitted,
>>> 
>>> Matt Kebabjian
>>> 
>> 
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