bureaucratic org/Weight Question

Thomas C. Weedon weedon at wwnet.net
Sun Oct 27 14:05:10 AKST 2002


Buddy,
I'll look through my stuff and see if I can find the tally you're looking
for. However, the class with the most responce was the Masters class. Very
few Sportsman Class people replied. The best that I can remember, the vote
was against an increase in weight by all classes.
Tom
  -----Original Message-----
  From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of Buddy Brammer
  Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:25 PM
  To: discussion at nsrca.org
  Subject: Re: bureaucratic org/Weight Question






  Ron

  I am aware of the vote and would like to obtain information as to the make
up of the votes by class. I have requested this but the person that I
requested it from doesn't have time to extract it, so I guess I will have to
go on my merry way without it. Just trying to figure out for myself where
the interest is centered by class versus contest participation. and if
anyone had personally submitted a rule change request to AMA to change the
weight rule.I assure you and everyone that my motives are honorable, not
trying to promote controversy .

  Buddy



  >From: ronlock
  >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
  >To: discussion at nsrca.org
  >Subject: Re: bureaucratic org/Weight Question
  >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:46:57 -0500
  >
  >According to the rules survey results , the question on should
  >the weight limit be raised received 74 Yes, 111 No, votes.
  >
  >There is a proposal to add language to the effect of:
  >~The contest director has option of deleting weight & size limits
  >for Sportsman class...such deletion must be published in ...
  >advance...model must conform to AMA weight limits.
  >
  >Ron Lockhart
  >
  >
  > Tom
  >
  > I fully understand that it was not submitted by NSRCA. My question was,
Has anyone submitted a weight change personally? I also think it would
enlightening to know,since the vote margin was close. How many votes For and
Against the weight change came from each individual Class? But I don't
expect that information will be made available.
  >
  > Buddy
  >
  >
  >
  > >From: "Thomas C. Weedon"
  > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
  > >To:
  > >Subject: RE: bureaucratic organization!
  > >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:10:02 -0500
  > >
  > >Buddy,
  > >The rules proposals that were submitted to AMA was posted on this list
about
  > >a month ago. There was no rule proposal for a weight limit change
because
  > >the membership did not approve such a change. In a series of three
questions
  > >on the original ballot, the members voted "no change", by a slim
majority.
  > >Better luck next time, or write your own proposal and submit it. That
is
  > >your privilege.
  > >Tom
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
  > >Behalf Of Buddy Brammer
  > > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:08 PM
  > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
  > > Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
  > >
  > >
  > > Tony I agree. Does anyone know if the weight change proposal was
submitted
  > >to AMA by anyone?
  > >
  > > Buddy
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > >From: "Tony Stillman"
  > > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
  > > >To:
  > > >Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
  > > >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:44:31 -0500
  > > >
  > > >Troy:
  > > >
  > > >One correction. NSRCA proposals do NOT get an automatic pass on the
  > >initial vote.
  > > >
  > > >This changed about 6 years ago. As a matter of fact, An NSRCA past
  > >President, Rick Allison, spent long hours writing a proposal to help
  > >counteract this change. However, it ended up being thrown out by the
AMA
  > >Exec. Counsel.
  > > >
  > > >I am in total support of ANY AMA member sending in proposals. Past
  > >surveys prove that NSRCA can't think of everything that needs to be
done.
  > >Many things can be missed, or not even thought of. It is also very easy
to
  > >just sit back and let NSRCA handle everything. Don't do that! That's
the
  > >problem with the "silent majority" of our country now! We don't vote,
and so
  > >we end up with what we get.
  > > >
  > > >It takes nerve to stand up for your ideas. Good job, Troy.
  > > >
  > > >Tony Stillman
  > > >Radio South
  > > >3702 N. Pace Blvd.
  > > >Pensacola, FL 32505
  > > >www.radiosouthrc.com
  > > >
  >
  >

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