Masters 2005 Options

[Bill Glaze]

But does it include figures simple enough for the lower classes?
IMAC (pardon the expression) several years ago set out a series of figures taken
from the IAC Handbook, (Blue Book) that were permissible to be used in unknowns
for the various classes.  Worked quite well.

Bill Glaze

Tony Stillman wrote:

> A list, as such, already exhists.  It is used in FAI to pick the "finals
> Unknown" pattern.
>
> Tony Stillman
> Radio South, Inc.
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> Pensacola, Fl 32505
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> 800-962-7802
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Masters 2005 Options
>
> > Maybe in the future we can use a three step-process in selecting a new
> > schedule for all AMA classes.   It would be very simple.
> >
> > 1) First lets the publish a list of all center and turnaround
> > maneuvers. The list should contain all currently flown maneuvers and
> > maneuvers that have been flown in the past.  The pattern community would
> be
> > asked to propose additional realistic but innovative maneuvers, for
> instance
> > an avalanche from the top with a snap at the bottom, or a loop with a roll
> > at the top - the possibilities are endless
> >
> > 2) Once a complete list is assembled for a given selection cycle, it
> > would be submitted for another membership vote to select the preferred
> > maneuvers for each class (401, 402, 403, and 404).
> >
> > 3) Finally, a committee would assemble these sets of maneuvers into a
> > well "flowing" schedules for each class.  (I would expect that the
> selection
> > process would include field testing by pilots in an appropriate class.
> >
> > In my opinion, the result will be set of schedules (401, 402, 403, and
> 404)
> > that majority of the pattern community will like because it will contain
> the
> > most popular maneuvers, although the sequence may be drastically different
> > form what we are used to.
> >
> > I believe that developing a single schedules with appropriate difficulty
> and
> > interesting maneuvers for everyone is almost impossible because of
> enormous
> > possibilities of variations that a schedule can be developed, hence there
> > will always be more than one opinion of what is better.  As an AMA SIG,
> the
> > NSRCA would obviously conduct the polling/voting and final schedule
> > selection.
> >
> > Just a proposal,
> >
> > Wojtek
> > NSRCA 1856
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: glenn hatfield [SMTP:randy10926 at comcast.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:45 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: Masters 2005 Options
> >
> > I second the motion.
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Lee Davis <lee at piedmontmodels.com
> > <mailto:lee at piedmontmodels.com> >
> > Date: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:33 pm
> > Subject: Re: Masters 2005 Options
> >
> > > I think it is *very* important for NSRCA to provide input
> > to AMA > for rules > and flight routines.  It is the one and only voice
> for
> > Pattern > pilots as a > group.
> > >
> > > There was an announcement and time given months ago for
> > anyone to > submit routines for Masters on this very list.  A number of
> them
> > > were discussed > right here.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to submit something else now, have at it,
> > it's > your right, > but no one was excluded from the process of the
> current
> > submission > from NSRCA.
> > >
> > Ron, perhaps if you bothered to join NSRCA you would see the
> > vast > improvements made over the last several years to reach out and >
> > promote to > the R/C modeling public at large.  I have the nothing but
> > praise > for the > recent administration and staff.  I'm trying to say
> > something that > doesn'tcome of as rude or petty, but Monday morning
> > quarterbacks > comes to mind.
> >
> > > It's easy to criticize from the sidelines.
> > >
> > > Lee Davis
> > > Piedmont Models
> > > http://www.piedmontmodels.com/
> > <http://www.piedmontmodels.com/>
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Williams, Ron" <rwilliams at wilkinson-mfg.com
> > <mailto:rwilliams at wilkinson-mfg.com> >
> > > To: <discussion at nsrca.org <mailto:discussion at nsrca.org>
> > >
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:37 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Masters 2005 Options
> > >
> > >
> > > > I try to stay out of this type of discussion and
> > just fly
> > > pattern.  That
> > > is why you most likely have never seen my name post here.
> > I have
> > > followedthis list for several years and could not keep
> > quit any
> > > longer.  I want to
> > > thank Troy for saying publicly what I feel several people
> > are saying
> > > privately.  I am one of the people who are no longer a
> > current
> > > member of the
> > > NSRCA but do fly pattern, attend several contests a year
> > and
> > > belong to the
> > > AMA.  Troy is correct.  The goal of the NSRCA is to
> > promote the
> > > future of RC
> > > Aerobatics.  This is not what I feel has been the focus
> > the last
> > > few years.
> > > The last time the patterns were changed a back room deal
> > was made
> > > by the
> > > leadership of the NSRCA to change the membership-approved
> > > patterns.  The
> > > explanation was that it had to be done or it would not
> > have
> > > passed.  To me
> > > this was an insult to anyone flying in that class that our
> >
> > > leadership agreed
> > > with.  There are several times on that comments are made
> > on this list
> > > stating that people like myself who do not belong to the
> > NSRCA
> > > should have
> > > no say in the future direction.  No wonder people think we
> > feel we are
> > > better than everyone else.
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Troy, anyone who belongs to the AMA
> > should be able
> > > to present
> > > a set of maneuvers to the AMA for approval.   The current
> > > president of the
> > > NSRCA going on a public list chastising this individual
> > for doing
> > > this is
> > > wrong.  We need to promote the hobby to new people not
> > promote
> > > personalagendas.  Our local area is also growing like Troy
> >
> > > mentions his is.  I can
> > > also tell you that most of them have no idea who the NSRCA
> > is or
> > > care.  They
> > > are AMA members who want to fly aerobatics.  Hopefully the
> > NSRCA
> > > will soon
> > > return to better times and we can begin to promote the
> > hobby not
> > > try to take
> > > it over.  I agree, our future is bright and all the new
> > equipment
> > > keepsmaking it better.
> > > >
> > > > This message is not intended to upset anyone or
> > is it intended
> > > to be a
> > > personal attack on anyone.  I hope it does not come across
> > as
> > > such.  It is
> > > just my opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Williams
> > >
> > >
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