AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph

[Thomas Shaw]

Larry,

Well said.  I did copy Mike Hurley when this thread started.

TES
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Diamond <jed241 at email.msn.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph


> Mike, I will second that...I have attended  couple contest in California
in
> the mid 80's when I first got the bug. This is from someone that carried
> that bug since and just now starting to get involved. I have attended a
> couple contest in D4 and most recently the D3 Championship contest.
>
> At the D3 Contest this past weekend, I learned what pattern was all about.
I
> showed up and only knew one person that I met only once before. He
> introduced me to Mike Dunphy and I met many others at the contest. This
was
> a class act and sets the standard of how a contest should run. Everyone
was
> very helpful and offered there help with any questions or problems I might
> run into. Makes me wonder where the EGO problems are. I haven't seen
> them -ever-!!! Only negative vibes came from an IMACer....
>
> To be fair to Mike Hurley, I propose that Eric or an Officer of the NSRCA
> confront him with the voice of the NSRCA and request an explanation for
the
> article. I feel that a retraction or an apology is in order. I also
> recommend articles in Pattern columns with positive comments with out
> blasting at IMAC. We need to rise above it and press on....
>
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at attbi.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
>
>
> I can answer that one for D3.
>
> As a relative newcomer, I can say with no reservations that from the very
> first contest, I have been treated with the utmost respect and comraderie.
> Everyone, including veteran master and FAI pilots, took time to help me
and
> make me feel at home. I didn't even have to ask, they just stepped over
and
> made sure I was having fun and learning every flight.
>
> I've been to almost all of the D3 contests this year, (8), and all of the
> people I met were great folks. Not a single jerk, that I can remember.
>
> I think it's each competitior's obligation to help the new guys, even if
> they're the competition. I try and make sure they aren't standing there
> wondering what to do, and I try and give as much advice as they want. Even
> if they didn't bring a plane and are just curious.
>
> The face of the NSRCA begins and ends with each and every one of us. We
> should all take personal responsibility to make sure new pilots enjoy
> themselves enough to come back again and again. I have to wonder the full
> story behind that guy's comments if he felt so excluded at a pattern
> contest. I'd bet he wasn't in D3 lately.
>
> -Mike Hester
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Henderson,Eric" <eric.henderson at gartner.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
>
>
> > The question still stands. Are we that bad now or have we got better?
> >
> > The answer determines your next personal action.
> >
> > I'll tell you now that I have found IMAC contests to be less tense and
the
> > folks tended to be more gregarious. The only grief I have had from IMAC
is
> > over the noise level proposals that my wife signed.
> >
> > I will say that I could print anti-IMAC letters etc in my column, but so
> far
> > I have not had any!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > E.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ [mailto:moleski at canisius.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:54 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: AMA Magazine Article - the paragraph
> >
> >
> > --On Monday, September 30, 2002 5:26 PM -0500 Larry Diamond
> > <jed241 at email.msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The problem isn't that it was published. The problem is that it ever
> > > happened in the first place. You can't stop all of it.
> >
> > It's not an either/or situation.
> >
> > Yes, the allegation, if true, indicates that some of us
> > may not be too hospitable to a newcomer during a contest.
> >
> > The publication of the allegation as a generalization is
> > stereotyping.  It is an offense in its own right.
> > "Pattern guys--self-centered and inhospitable; IMAC
> > guys--good."
> >
> > In the 1980s, I rode my bike onto an RC field in
> > the vicinity of D.C.  The guys cussed at me in no
> > uncertain terms for endangering myself.  They
> > were surly and rude.  They answered my questions
> > about the hobby in monosyllables, if at all.
> >
> > I made two decisions that day.  One was to get into
> > the hobby when I finished my Ph.D.  The other was
> > to greet newcomers with an extended hand and a smile.
> > I've kept both resolutions.
> >
> > Marty
> >
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