AMA rules-what are we doing? - Canadian contests

[Del Rykert]

Tnx for the update Xavier. I used to attend more contest in Canada than the
states because of the closer proximity. Even including the wait at the
border with our restaurant/hotel. Have you heard if Ajax group will ever be
back?
         Del

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne & Xavier" <xavier.mouraux at sympatico.ca>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing? - Canadian contests


> Hi Del,
> In the eastern part of Canada, there has been 4 contests this year.
> Thornton, Oakville (also 2002 Canadian Nats), Chatham and Ottawa. London
was
> cancelled but Chatham was added, so the total stayed the same as 2001. The
> attendance were down from the previous year (for many reasons). There was
> more contests a few year ago and a few disappeared. The plan for next year
> is still for 4 contests. There has been some talking already. It will be
> posted as soon it gets more defined.
> Xavier
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Del Rykert" <drykert at rochester.rr.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
>
>
> > Tom.
> >
> >     Great to hear that things are on the upswing for you and your
> district.
> > Maybe Canada doesn't count for you but the contests I used to attend are
> > down by three by my last count. Attendance at this years contest was
down
> > except for Ken Kehners contests in Glen,NY. I can't speak for the rest
of
> > the district as I haven't made the long drive. At todoays cost of
> > competitive aircraft when you lose one due to a midair it takes people
out
> > of competition sometimes for the major part of the year. As you know we
> had
> > more than our share this last year and that contributed to some loss in
> > attendance. That to some degree will be back next year. Also hopefully
> Elba
> > will be able to pull off a contest again in 2003. Have to wait and see
as
> we
> > are struggling with field issues. I haven't heard if the cancelled
> Canadian
> > contests are going to be back in 2003 or not.
> >
> >     To claim that things are going well when the facts show to the
> contrary
> > isn't healthy either IMHO.
> >
> >      Del K. Rykert
> >      AMA - 8928
> >      NSRCA - 473
> >      Kb2joi - General
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> >
> >
> > > Del,
> > > Let me add what I have said before that Pattern is not declining, at
> least
> > > not around here. The NSRCA membership is down, that's true, and I've
> said
> > > before that I believe that the cause was the continuing increase in
> dues.
> > > However, in D4 we seem to be enjoying a growth spurt in Pattern,
> > especially
> > > in the number of contests. Also, we have had good numbers in the
> Sportsman
> > > Class this last year. I've said this before, many times on this list.
> > Seems
> > > no one listened as the talk is still about declining numbers. Let me
ask
> > > again, "WHAT DECLINING NUMBERS?"  Shucks, the Pattern Nats is bigger
> then
> > > ever. We have more contests. We have more Sportsman entrants than
> before.
> > > Will every one PLEASE get off this thing about DECLINING NUMBERS, and
> > start
> > > looking at what's going right?
> > > Tom W.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Del Rykert
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:21 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Tom....
> > >
> > >     I realize it is not a truly scientifically accurate survey but I
do
> > > believe it has more credence than guessing amongst ourselves why some
> have
> > > left or choose not to compete. I realize we will never be the largest
> SIG
> > in
> > > the world nor do I think we should be trying to go there. What I do
have
> > > concerns about is the declining numbers that aren't being replaced if
> the
> > > sport as it is currently designed is going to thrive. Time constraints
> for
> > > some are in conflict with the complexities that the sport has risen
to.
> > I'm
> > > certain that has contributed to some of the decline. I know it has
hurt
> my
> > > participation the last couple of years.
> > >
> > >      Del K. Rykert
> > >      AMA - 8928
> > >      NSRCA - 473
> > >      Kb2joi - General
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
> > > To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:52 AM
> > > Subject: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Del,
> > > > Let me caution you that Bob's "on-line" survey is not a true random
> > survey
> > > > and therefore can not be representative of the opinions of a general
> > > > population. A true and accurate survey would sample an entire, fixed
> > > > population, take the responses (however many there are) and then
> > generate
> > > > the statistics. This would be an accurate, scientific polling. What
> > Bob's
> > > > survey did discover is reasons which can then become the substance
of
> an
> > > > accurate survey of a controlled population. That's the only way
you'll
> > > ever
> > > > know for sure.
> > > > After all the work is over, I still bet that most people are just
not
> > > > interested, and they'll invent reasons, if need be, to make their
> > argument
> > > > sound more reasonable. Pattern flying is just not, nor ever will be,
a
> > > > popular sport enjoyed by a large minority of RC flyers.
> > > > Tom W.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Del Rykert
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:03 PM
> > > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > > Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is this a time when we should take a serious look at the results of
> Bob
> > > P's
> > > > survey?  If we consider those results as possible fact and realize
we
> > have
> > > a
> > > > perception problem then shouldn't we address the perception issues,
> > > whether
> > > > real or not.
> > > >
> > > >      Del K. Rykert
> > > >      AMA - 8928
> > > >      NSRCA - 473
> > > >      Kb2joi - General
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