Particpation

[ronlock]

Seems like Ive been hearing of pattern in decline since I started
pattern in the mid 1980s.
In the northeast area we lost the Lakehurst Naval Air Station
field and contest this year.  I suspect the contest will be back
next year when the new field 5 miles away is in better shape.

Pickings for Northern VA, NJ, PA, NY, MA area this year incuded:
May 18, Sportsman/Intermidiate Pimer Croton NY (rained out)
Jun 8/9  Clayton NJ
Jun 29/30  Pocono PA
Jun 22/23 Hamburg NY
Jul 13/14 Sayre PA
(Jul 21-16 NATS IN)
Aug 10 Croton Primer resched.
Aug 17/18 Glenn NY
Aug 24/25 Arcola VA (Wash DC)
Sep 7/8 Bridgewater MA
Sep 21/22 Elba NY

Ron Lockhart

----- Original Message -----
From: "Del Rykert" <drykert at rochester.rr.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?


> Tom.
>
>     Great to hear that things are on the upswing for you and your
district.
> Maybe Canada doesn't count for you but the contests I used to attend are
> down by three by my last count. Attendance at this years contest was down
> except for Ken Kehners contests in Glen,NY. I can't speak for the rest of
> the district as I haven't made the long drive. At todoays cost of
> competitive aircraft when you lose one due to a midair it takes people out
> of competition sometimes for the major part of the year. As you know we
had
> more than our share this last year and that contributed to some loss in
> attendance. That to some degree will be back next year. Also hopefully
Elba
> will be able to pull off a contest again in 2003. Have to wait and see as
we
> are struggling with field issues. I haven't heard if the cancelled
Canadian
> contests are going to be back in 2003 or not.
>
>     To claim that things are going well when the facts show to the
contrary
> isn't healthy either IMHO.
>
>      Del K. Rykert
>      AMA - 8928
>      NSRCA - 473
>      Kb2joi - General
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:26 AM
> Subject: RE: AMA rules-what are we doing?
>
>
> > Del,
> > Let me add what I have said before that Pattern is not declining, at
least
> > not around here. The NSRCA membership is down, that's true, and I've
said
> > before that I believe that the cause was the continuing increase in
dues.
> > However, in D4 we seem to be enjoying a growth spurt in Pattern,
> especially
> > in the number of contests. Also, we have had good numbers in the
Sportsman
> > Class this last year. I've said this before, many times on this list.
> Seems
> > no one listened as the talk is still about declining numbers. Let me ask
> > again, "WHAT DECLINING NUMBERS?"  Shucks, the Pattern Nats is bigger
then
> > ever. We have more contests. We have more Sportsman entrants than
before.
> > Will every one PLEASE get off this thing about DECLINING NUMBERS, and
> start
> > looking at what's going right?
> > Tom W.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> > [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Del Rykert
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:21 PM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom....
> >
> >     I realize it is not a truly scientifically accurate survey but I do
> > believe it has more credence than guessing amongst ourselves why some
have
> > left or choose not to compete. I realize we will never be the largest
SIG
> in
> > the world nor do I think we should be trying to go there. What I do have
> > concerns about is the declining numbers that aren't being replaced if
the
> > sport as it is currently designed is going to thrive. Time constraints
for
> > some are in conflict with the complexities that the sport has risen to.
> I'm
> > certain that has contributed to some of the decline. I know it has hurt
my
> > participation the last couple of years.
> >
> >      Del K. Rykert
> >      AMA - 8928
> >      NSRCA - 473
> >      Kb2joi - General
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas C. Weedon" <weedon at wwnet.net>
> > To: "NSRCA Discussion List" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:52 AM
> > Subject: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Del,
> > > Let me caution you that Bob's "on-line" survey is not a true random
> survey
> > > and therefore can not be representative of the opinions of a general
> > > population. A true and accurate survey would sample an entire, fixed
> > > population, take the responses (however many there are) and then
> generate
> > > the statistics. This would be an accurate, scientific polling. What
> Bob's
> > > survey did discover is reasons which can then become the substance of
an
> > > accurate survey of a controlled population. That's the only way you'll
> > ever
> > > know for sure.
> > > After all the work is over, I still bet that most people are just not
> > > interested, and they'll invent reasons, if need be, to make their
> argument
> > > sound more reasonable. Pattern flying is just not, nor ever will be, a
> > > popular sport enjoyed by a large minority of RC flyers.
> > > Tom W.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: discussion-request at nsrca.org
> [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Del Rykert
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:03 PM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Re: AMA rules-what are we doing?
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this a time when we should take a serious look at the results of
Bob
> > P's
> > > survey?  If we consider those results as possible fact and realize we
> have
> > a
> > > perception problem then shouldn't we address the perception issues,
> > whether
> > > real or not.
> > >
> > >      Del K. Rykert
> > >      AMA - 8928
> > >      NSRCA - 473
> > >      Kb2joi - General
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