Weight Limit/cost

[Mike Hester]

There's a lot of things missing from that list. I recently had to add up the
exact total in a pattern plane I had built and I was suprised at what I
actually had put into it. I think you'd be suprised.

However the same goes for an average sport plane too.

And at the same time, I must add that "too expensive" is not a valid reason
if you can afford to fly at all. It is however a good excuse =)

-Mike Hester

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Terrenoire" <amad2terry at juno.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: Weight Limit/cost


> Just to confirm this:
> I am currently building a Synergy
> Kit cost $875
> Engine $500, YS 1.40 L
> Header $40
> 4 digital servos $360
> Paint and Monokote $100?
> Ball bearing controls $40
> Pilot $10
> Wheels $30
> Add another misc $100 and you have a total of $2055
>
> And this is with top equipment. Have not purchased a pipe yet and the
> throttle servo is a 132 from my inventory.
> Eliminate the ballbearing hardware, and digital servos and you're back
> under $2000.
>
> Terry T.
>
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:35:00 -0600 "Keith Black" <tkeithb at attbi.com>
> writes:
> > > BTW you mentioned being competitive with a $1500 plane.  If true
> > why are
> > > the "top boys" flying planes were the radio/receiver/servos along
> > cost
> > $1500?
> >
> > What I said was one could be competitive by spending $1500 to $2000
> > and I
> > feel that this is the case. That's not to say that the "big boys",
> > or even
> > the well financed guy at the local club, won't spend more. Obviously
> > that
> > dollar figure doesn't assume you get a ready built plane from
> > someone like
> > PLProd. BTW, I wasn't including the transmitter in that figure as
> > most
> > people in the hobby have a TX they fly multiple planes with (even
> > the sport
> > guys). You can get a name brand JR or Futaba radio with lots extras
> > like
> > multi-model support, dual rates, exponential, programmable mixes,
> > etc. for
> > $250.
> >
> > As to the $1500 to $2000 figure consider the following: Top notch
> > JR
> > digitals on all flight surfaces for around $400 to $500, Webra 1.45
> > or OS
> > 1.40RX - $395.00 to $450, Hitec receiver for $60, competitive
> > cutting edge
> > kit or ARC for $425 to $700 (in my case I'm building an Aries from
> > AeroSlave, but you can also go with others or even get an ARC Focus
> > for
> > $595). Add another $300 or so for building supplies, landing gear,
> > spinner,
> > linkages, etc.
> >
> > That comes to right around $2000 on the high end and $1500 on the
> > low end,
> > and the result in either case would be a very competitive plane.
> >
> > The point of my message was that I can be on a competitive playing
> > field in
> > Pattern in this dollar range, but in IMAC the price tag is more like
> > $7000
> > and continually growing as pilots go from 33%, to 40%, to 50%
> > planes. It
> > would be very discouraging to me to have to compete against someone
> > that
> > drops this much money on am IMAC plane, but if someone drops $3000
> > or $4000
> > on a pattern plane I know it's probably just because they didn't
> > want to
> > build :-)
> >
> > Keith Black
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "GeorgeF." <av8tor at flash.net>
> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >  In IMAC they're continually building them bigger and bigger,
> > and one
> > has
> > > > to follow suite to be competitive.
> > >
> > > This "bigger and bigger" as resulted in many flying fields being
> > > lost.  Both because of "big" planes being flown wrecklessly and
> > because of
> > > noise.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >I know that changes often have unintended consequences. The
> > question is
> > > >will lifting the weight limitation cause an explosion in price or
> > simply
> > > >provide more economical and technically appealing options as
> > others have
> > > >suggested.
> > >
> > >
> > > For an answer to this lets take a look at what happened with the
> > engine
> > > size rule was lifted.  What happened to cost?  What happened to
> > average
> > > aircraft size?  Both went up.
> > >
> > > BTW you mentioned being competitive with a $1500 plane.  If true
> > why are
> > > the "top boys" flying planes were the radio/receiver/servos along
> > cost
> > $1500?
> > >
> > > George
> > >
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