Weight Limit/cost

Terry Terrenoire amad2terry at juno.com
Tue Nov 12 02:08:55 AKST 2002


Just to confirm this:
I am currently building a Synergy 
Kit cost $875
Engine $500, YS 1.40 L
Header $40
4 digital servos $360
Paint and Monokote $100?
Ball bearing controls $40
Pilot $10
Wheels $30
Add another misc $100 and you have a total of $2055

And this is with top equipment. Have not purchased a pipe yet and the
throttle servo is a 132 from my inventory.
Eliminate the ballbearing hardware, and digital servos and you're back
under $2000.

Terry T.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:35:00 -0600 "Keith Black" <tkeithb at attbi.com>
writes:
> > BTW you mentioned being competitive with a $1500 plane.  If true 
> why are
> > the "top boys" flying planes were the radio/receiver/servos along 
> cost
> $1500?
> 
> What I said was one could be competitive by spending $1500 to $2000 
> and I
> feel that this is the case. That's not to say that the "big boys", 
> or even
> the well financed guy at the local club, won't spend more. Obviously 
> that
> dollar figure doesn't assume you get a ready built plane from 
> someone like
> PLProd. BTW, I wasn't including the transmitter in that figure as 
> most
> people in the hobby have a TX they fly multiple planes with (even 
> the sport
> guys). You can get a name brand JR or Futaba radio with lots extras 
> like
> multi-model support, dual rates, exponential, programmable mixes, 
> etc. for
> $250.
> 
> As to the $1500 to $2000 figure consider the following: Top notch 
> JR
> digitals on all flight surfaces for around $400 to $500, Webra 1.45 
> or OS
> 1.40RX - $395.00 to $450, Hitec receiver for $60, competitive 
> cutting edge
> kit or ARC for $425 to $700 (in my case I'm building an Aries from
> AeroSlave, but you can also go with others or even get an ARC Focus 
> for
> $595). Add another $300 or so for building supplies, landing gear, 
> spinner,
> linkages, etc.
> 
> That comes to right around $2000 on the high end and $1500 on the 
> low end,
> and the result in either case would be a very competitive plane.
> 
> The point of my message was that I can be on a competitive playing 
> field in
> Pattern in this dollar range, but in IMAC the price tag is more like 
> $7000
> and continually growing as pilots go from 33%, to 40%, to 50% 
> planes. It
> would be very discouraging to me to have to compete against someone 
> that
> drops this much money on am IMAC plane, but if someone drops $3000 
> or $4000
> on a pattern plane I know it's probably just because they didn't 
> want to
> build :-)
> 
> Keith Black
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GeorgeF." <av8tor at flash.net>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> 
> 
> >
> > >  In IMAC they're continually building them bigger and bigger, 
> and one
> has
> > > to follow suite to be competitive.
> >
> > This "bigger and bigger" as resulted in many flying fields being
> > lost.  Both because of "big" planes being flown wrecklessly and 
> because of
> > noise.
> >
> > >
> > >I know that changes often have unintended consequences. The 
> question is
> > >will lifting the weight limitation cause an explosion in price or 
> simply
> > >provide more economical and technically appealing options as 
> others have
> > >suggested.
> >
> >
> > For an answer to this lets take a look at what happened with the 
> engine
> > size rule was lifted.  What happened to cost?  What happened to 
> average
> > aircraft size?  Both went up.
> >
> > BTW you mentioned being competitive with a $1500 plane.  If true 
> why are
> > the "top boys" flying planes were the radio/receiver/servos along 
> cost
> $1500?
> >
> > George
> >
> >
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