Weight Limit problem long

Kurt Bozarth kurt at bozarthhomes.com
Mon Nov 11 10:43:06 AKST 2002


Obviously not serious pylon racers.  Most practice where pylons are set
up - practicing without the pylons (3-pole course) is like practicing a
pattern sequence all by yourself - bad habits are built.

Kurt
Pattern and Pylon flier

-----Original Message-----
From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Adam Glatt
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:01 AM
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Subject: Re: Weight Limit problem long


At my field it is common to only see the pylon planes three times a
year: Two nights before the local pylon contest, one night before the
local pylon contest, and during the contest.  They don't do any real
practicing and still think they are competing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: November 11, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: Weight Limit problem long


> Hi Wojtek,
> Ask most IMAC guys how much they practice the sequences. Then ask how 
> much freestyle they fly. Their answers will speak volumes. Used to 
> have a guy
who
> was into pylon in my club always asked me why I spent all that time 
> practicing.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
> >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >To: "'discussion at nsrca.org'" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >Subject: RE: Weight Limit problem long
> >Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:33:46 -0500
> >
> >Anthony
> >
> >Completely agree with you.  Cost is just an excuse that is a 
> >convenient
one
> >because no one will ever question that.   The true cause for not
wanting
to
> >join pattern is lack of discipline it takes to practice to be 
> >proficient and competitive.  For instance a lot of people joined IMAC

> >because it was fun and even though they have similar judging rules 
> >they were not implemented as
> >strict as we do in pattern.  The IMAC rules are changing and their
judging
> >is getting a lot stricter than it used to be.  Lets see how many 
> >people will stick with it since it is getting to be a lot more 
> >proficient flying type as
> >opposed to just dong snaps and waterfalls.  Until now it has been a
lot
of
> >fun and games.   On the other hand yesterday I went to a combat
contest -
> >and yes it was fun to watch but that is as far as it goes.  But for a

> >lot of RC'ers it has a lot of appeal because it does not take that 
> >much skill to participate - you just boring holes in the sky.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Romano [SMTP:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:18 AM
> > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > Subject: Weight Limit problem long
> >
> > Hi Buddy,
> > Here is my view. Just finished a new plane around $2000. Now, being 
> >a  competitor, I build a new more complicated, larger, more expensive
> >plane to
> > take advantage of the rule change and replace my now obsolete plane.
> >
> > Ignoring issue of gas such as smell, which now means I can't store 
> >planes in  the house and the wife won't come to the field, struggle 
> >with the sound
> > rule, can't fly at local field, etc.
> > Now I am just a mediocre competitor and if I get a lot of time I fly
> >my
> > pattern plane 200 times a year. Using your figures, maybe luck but I
> >never
> > pay that much for fuel, I save $350 dollars. My new plane will be
> >paid for
> > in around FIVE years on the savings. Add in the cost of new field
> >supplies,
> > fire extinguisher, radio upgrade to run two elevator servos, farther
> >drive
> > to field without noise limit, etc. Where is the savings?
> > If this is the direction of pattern I am not interested and don't
> >see how
> > bigger more expensive planes will help anything. You guys are all
> >killing me
> > with the cost issue. The average guy at my local club has three or
> >four 1.20
> > size arfs with $1000 to $1200 dollars in each one. Look around on
> >some of
> > the message boards and see the number of people that are flying and
> >entering
> > giant scale. The number of people looking to spend $3000 and up on a
> >bigger
> > planes is astounding.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Buddy Brammer" <buddybrammer35 at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> > >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:53:03 -0600
> > >
> >
> >
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