Weight Limit problem long

Mon Nov 11 10:26:47 AKST 2002

Kurt,
Please compare your time and expenses competing in both disciplines.

TIA

Anthony

>From: "Kurt Bozarth" <kurt at bozarthhomes.com>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Subject: RE: Weight Limit problem long
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:43:06 -0700
>
>Obviously not serious pylon racers.  Most practice where pylons are set
>up - practicing without the pylons (3-pole course) is like practicing a
>pattern sequence all by yourself - bad habits are built.
>
>Kurt
>Pattern and Pylon flier
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
>On Behalf Of Adam Glatt
>Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:01 AM
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: Re: Weight Limit problem long
>
>
>At my field it is common to only see the pylon planes three times a
>year: Two nights before the local pylon contest, one night before the
>local pylon contest, and during the contest.  They don't do any real
>practicing and still think they are competing.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
>To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>Sent: November 11, 2002 9:57 AM
>Subject: RE: Weight Limit problem long
>
>
> > Hi Wojtek,
> > Ask most IMAC guys how much they practice the sequences. Then ask how
> > much freestyle they fly. Their answers will speak volumes. Used to
> > have a guy
>who
> > was into pylon in my club always asked me why I spent all that time
> > practicing.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tomanek, Wojtek" <tomanekw at saic-abingdon.com>
> > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > >To: "'discussion at nsrca.org'" <discussion at nsrca.org>
> > >Subject: RE: Weight Limit problem long
> > >Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:33:46 -0500
> > >
> > >Anthony
> > >
> > >Completely agree with you.  Cost is just an excuse that is a
> > >convenient
>one
> > >because no one will ever question that.   The true cause for not
>wanting
>to
> > >join pattern is lack of discipline it takes to practice to be
> > >proficient and competitive.  For instance a lot of people joined IMAC
>
> > >because it was fun and even though they have similar judging rules
> > >they were not implemented as
> > >strict as we do in pattern.  The IMAC rules are changing and their
>judging
> > >is getting a lot stricter than it used to be.  Lets see how many
> > >people will stick with it since it is getting to be a lot more
> > >proficient flying type as
> > >opposed to just dong snaps and waterfalls.  Until now it has been a
>lot
>of
> > >fun and games.   On the other hand yesterday I went to a combat
>contest -
> > >and yes it was fun to watch but that is as far as it goes.  But for a
>
> > >lot of RC'ers it has a lot of appeal because it does not take that
> > >much skill to participate - you just boring holes in the sky.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Anthony Romano [SMTP:anthonyr105 at hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:18 AM
> > > To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > Subject: Weight Limit problem long
> > >
> > > Hi Buddy,
> > > Here is my view. Just finished a new plane around $2000. Now, being
> > >a  competitor, I build a new more complicated, larger, more expensive
> > >plane to
> > > take advantage of the rule change and replace my now obsolete plane.
> > >
> > > Ignoring issue of gas such as smell, which now means I can't store
> > >planes in  the house and the wife won't come to the field, struggle
> > >with the sound
> > > rule, can't fly at local field, etc.
> > > Now I am just a mediocre competitor and if I get a lot of time I fly
> > >my
> > > pattern plane 200 times a year. Using your figures, maybe luck but I
> > >never
> > > pay that much for fuel, I save $350 dollars. My new plane will be
> > >paid for
> > > in around FIVE years on the savings. Add in the cost of new field
> > >supplies,
> > > fire extinguisher, radio upgrade to run two elevator servos, farther
> > >drive
> > > to field without noise limit, etc. Where is the savings?
> > > If this is the direction of pattern I am not interested and don't
> > >see how
> > > bigger more expensive planes will help anything. You guys are all
> > >killing me
> > > with the cost issue. The average guy at my local club has three or
> > >four 1.20
> > > size arfs with $1000 to $1200 dollars in each one. Look around on
> > >some of
> > > the message boards and see the number of people that are flying and
> > >entering
> > > giant scale. The number of people looking to spend $3000 and up on a
> > >bigger
> > > planes is astounding.
> > >
> > > Anthony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Buddy Brammer" <buddybrammer35 at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> > > >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:53:03 -0600
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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