Weight Limit problem long

[Anthony Romano]

Hi Bill,
What was the cost of the setup of the casual sport pilot?

Anthony






>From: Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: Re: Weight Limit problem long
>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:58 -0600
>
>Cost? Interesting to contemplate.  When I started in competition, (not 
>called
>pattern at that time) the best radio you could buy was $150, the materials 
>to
>build a competitive airplane were $15 or less, servos were ~ $15 each, (4 
>req.)
>and the engine that everyone used was $14.95 NIB from your friendly dealer.
>However, I was making less than $10,000 per year.  (and living very well,
>thanks.)
>It's my belief that folks are either interested in competing in a hobby 
>activity,
>or they aren't interested.  Many feel that their work is competitive enough 
>to
>match their overall lifestyle; they feel they don't need it in their hobby. 
>  I
>also feel that you need to know someone as more than just a casual 
>acquaintance
>before you find out the real reason they aren't competing.  If you can get 
>past
>their own personal fence, then maybe--just maybe--you can get them 
>interested.
>And then again, maybe not.
>After all, it's a huge hobby.
>
>Bill Glaze
>
>John Gausby wrote:
>
> > I have to agree with Anthony on this one. I don't think cost is the 
>major
> > stopping point for the newcomer.
> >
> > >From what i see...It's the fear of competition thing. The fear of 
>experts
> > judging your flying. That FIRST contest often softens that fear , but 
>getting
> > a newbie to try that first contest is a big hurdle.
> >
> > I don't ever remember pattern being inexpensive. Even back in the 60's 
>and
> > 70's a new radio was 300 to 500 bucks. A good .60 was 100 to 200. Rhom
> > retracts were $125.....It was not uncommon to have a $1000 or more tied 
>up in
> > one plane.....JG
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:17:35 -0500 Anthony Romano 
><anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Buddy,
> > > Here is my view. Just finished a new plane
> > > around $2000. Now, being a
> > > competitor, I build a new more complicated,
> > > larger, more expensive plane to
> > > take advantage of the rule change and replace
> > > my now obsolete plane.
> > > Ignoring issue of gas such as smell, which now
> > > means I can't store planes in
> > > the house and the wife won't come to the field,
> > > struggle with the sound
> > > rule, can't fly at local field, etc.
> > > Now I am just a mediocre competitor and if I
> > > get a lot of time I fly my
> > > pattern plane 200 times a year. Using your
> > > figures, maybe luck but I never
> > > pay that much for fuel, I save $350 dollars. My
> > > new plane will be paid for
> > > in around FIVE years on the savings. Add in the
> > > cost of new field supplies,
> > > fire extinguisher, radio upgrade to run two
> > > elevator servos, farther drive
> > > to field without noise limit, etc. Where is the
> > > savings?
> > > If this is the direction of pattern I am not
> > > interested and don't see how
> > > bigger more expensive planes will help
> > > anything. You guys are all killing me
> > > with the cost issue. The average guy at my
> > > local club has three or four 1.20
> > > size arfs with $1000 to $1200 dollars in each
> > > one. Look around on some of
> > > the message boards and see the number of people
> > > that are flying and entering
> > > giant scale. The number of people looking to
> > > spend $3000 and up on a bigger
> > > planes is astounding.
> > >
> > > Anthony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Buddy Brammer"
> > > >Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >To: discussion at nsrca.org
> > > >Subject: Re: Weight Limit
> > > >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:53:03 -0600
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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