Sequences for 2003

[John Ferrell]

I believe that will satisfy our needs.
John Ferrell 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Stillman 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003


  Just to let everyone know, the proposal to go to an Annex system has been re-submitted to AMA.  John Fuqua contacted AMA and was able to come to a "compromise" that would be acceptable to AMA on this issue.  

  The proposal will allow for a maneuver schedule change by NSRCA making a survey of members with some choices of new schedules.  All maneuvers would be listed in an "annex" that the schedules would be drawn up from.  Maneuvers can be added to the annex as needed.  Once the membership picks a specific schedule, it would be sent directly to the contest board for approval.  This should only take a couple of weeks, and could done at anytime, if needed. Most likely, we will only want to change schedules every two or three years.  The idea is that we would not be "tied" to the AMA rules cycle to make a change.  We could also "correct" any issues that might arise with a particular schedule by making needed changes.  

  This is not exactly what we wanted, but John feels that it is a good starting point, and gets our "foot in the door" for further changes down the road.  

  The main issue is that we can make changes outside of the 3-years rules cycle, if passed.  

     
  Tony Stillman
  Radio South, Inc.
  3702 N. Pace Blvd.
  Pensacola, Fl 32505
  www.radiosouthrc.com
  800-962-7802
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Troy Newman 
    To: discussion 
    Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 2:06 AM
    Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003


    The current AMA rules allow for a 3yr cycle. There have only been submissions to change the Masters sequence in 2005. There are two choices for this Masters 2005-2007 sequence. No other rules changes were submitted to change the AMA classes of Sportsman, Intermediate, or Advanced. Now there was a proposal to change to an Annex system where the NSRCA control the sequences and they can change it anytime they want to. That failed already and currently the people in support of this system are looking for ways to get it passed by the AMA. With this exception there will be no changes of the AMA Precision Aerobatics sequences until 2008. The reason the current rules cycle began on Oct 1 of 2002 to make changes for 2005. Since there was nothing submitted there will not be any changes in 2005 except a possible switch of the masters pattern. To my knowledge there are two options.

    Important thing to remember guys as was discussed at extreme length the NSRCA does NOT make any rules. Whether that changes in future or not is up to the AMA. BUT the NSRCA is not the holder of the rules, they are not the interpreter of the rules, and the NSRCA is not a ruling body. We as the NSRCA look to the AMA for rules. We make suggestions both as a group and as individual members and the AMA's processes control the rules. I want to make a very strong point that its not some abstract group that has no clue what's going on. The AMA contest board includes many and mostly active flyers. There are some that are essentially inactive in recent years but the Board is dominated by Pattern, IMAC competitors, and TOC pilots. For the most part these guys are active in the Aerobatics community and are members of the NSRCA and IMAC.


    The rules survey said that the responding NSRCA members favored a 3yr rules cycle. This is the current AMA cycle. If nobody submits a change there is no change in the current system. 

    Just some food for thought. I figured after the tongue lashing given this topic over the past month it was clear. This is the way the system operates TODAY....and will operate until 2005 unless a Urgent change is made by the AMA.

    TN


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: JZeigenfus at aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:11 PM
      To: discussion at nsrca.org
      Subject: Re: Sequences for 2003

      There are no dumb questions. The patterns are changed every three years. If you go to the web site you can find the patterns listed for whichever class you are going to fly in. We will be in the second year of the current pattern cycle. JEZ . www.nsrca.org 


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