<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I think the most important switch we fail to discuss is a KILL switch. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 8:57 PM Karl Watts <<a href="mailto:Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org">Karl.Watts@saintalphonsus.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just need to try different configurations and see what is the most comfortable then. Yes, keep it simple! I do not want to flip switches a lot, will forget. Have been experimenting with rate switches this summer. I think the best would
maybe to have just one switch, less confusion, maybe that can be for snaps and spins . Then maybe another flight condition switch for normal flight and landing.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The trick is “getting used to it”. I think everyone is different and I fly with a different tray setup than Pat does and sometimes finding the right switch is a challenge. As another suggestion if you have any IMAC guys in your area ask
one of them how they set up their switches, rates, mixing, expo etc. I’ve always subscribed to the keep it simple approach I’m not as ambidextrous as Pat.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Once you get used to switches it becomes second nature. I always put my rate switch just above my right stick (mode 2). As soon as I do a snap roll, I turn the switch off with a flick of the
back of my index finger. It's also in the perfect position for turning it off for the spin again with a fast flip of the index finger. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 11:40 AM Patrick Harris <<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">For spins I switch to full up and down elevator. I flip the switch before spin entry to be able to get the nose up for the stall. Once it stalls and the nose drops, I flip the switch off as I
don't want the full elevator for the spin. I spin at normal flying rates. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">For snaps, I want full or close to full aileron, a hair less rudder and elevator from normal flying rates. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">For Advanced you will be fine with just dual rates, one for snaps and maybe one for spin entry. You will only have to flip one switch one or two times at most in Advanced. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I use three switches, one for down elevator for right rudder ,point and slow roll and one for high rate elevator for spin and then switch both of for landing.Then final switch for throttle cut after landing.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 9:59 AM Bob Crump via NSRCA-dist8 <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve tried all the above, rate switching, mode switching and I invariably forget to flip the switch. I’m in Jim’s camp now. After several flights on a new airplane I put in enough exponential to get a satisfactory snap and go with it. One
change recently was to switch out any mixing when setting up for landing. I even forget that sometimes. I would use whatever your most comfortable with, Switching versus expo.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for feedback Pat and Jim. Maybe should give more information. Looking at moving to Advanced next year. Snaps and spins will be new. Trying to determine which will be
better a rate switch or flight condition switch. Guess I will need to try them and figure it out, but does not hurt to know what others are doing. (Pat, just discovered the Phase Set on my Graupner MZ-24 this weekend) Also what kind of throws do you use
between normal flight, snaps and spins?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I use both. I use a rate switch for snaps and spins. I use a condition switch (Phase Set in Graupner MZ32 and MZ16) Phase set will allow
different servo sub trims and end points. For instance.....I use a Phase Set called "Landing". When I flip that (Landing) switch. it removes the down elevator to low throttle mix, gives me a hair of up elevator trim, and increases the up elevator throw a bit.
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