<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Guys,<div><br></div><div>While I've never participated in (or even seen) a Classic contest, I tend to agree with Alan. Y'all come and fly whatever could be a lot of chuckles but seems as though it would not be much different from a club fun-fly. Having a well defined protocol will help everyone who wants to join in.</div><div><br></div><div>Art</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 19, 2014, at 3:54 PM, alan wellentin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>It looks to me like there are two different things going on here. There's a run what you brung which would essentially mean pretty much anything 60 size and smaller would compete. Then there's the "classic pattern". Honestly, I'm not planning on putting another plane in the air, it's going to be tough enough to keep myself flying and get Nicole flying if she gets motivated, so to me it doesn't really matter, but, I'm afraid if your going to say pretty much anything goes, then, anything needs to go. If your going to say classic pattern, then, classic pattern it is.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Alan</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:41 PM, Patrick Harris <<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com">harris7148@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv6005566383"><div><div dir="ltr">Bob,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Under the laid out guide line, I would say Yes it would be OK, but the intent is to keep it to Old School. To me a 3D ARF of modern design does not fit the "Old School" criteria. This stuff isn't in stone so we can still adjust as we go. Any thoughts from everyone on how to write this is most appreciated. Like Jim, said we don't want to alienate anyone, but we do need some sort of guideline.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Pat</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv6005566383yqt1068519552" id="yiv6005566383yqt82793"><div class="yiv6005566383gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv6005566383gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gail & Robert Walker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net">grbwii@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div><font face="Arial">Pat,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"> Just checking, but would that mean that I
could use my electric Katanna(SP)? You say it fly at Dusters the other day. I
would have to tone the throws down a bit, but it seems to fit your
specs?</font></div>
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Bob W</font></div>
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<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<a title="harris7148@gmail.com" href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com">Patrick
Harris</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="rc.gauthier@comcast.net" href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net">Ray Gauthier</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org">AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY</a> ; <a title="bburden1959@gmail.com" href="mailto:bburden1959@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:bburden1959@gmail.com">Brad
Burden</a> ; <a title="grbwii@comcast.net" href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net">Bob
Walker</a> ; <a title="whyRudy@comcast.net" href="mailto:whyRudy@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:whyRudy@comcast.net">Rudy</a> ; <a title="ribergeron@comcast.net" href="mailto:ribergeron@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ribergeron@comcast.net">Rick Bergeron</a> ; <a title="a_wellentin@yahoo.com" href="mailto:a_wellentin@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:a_wellentin@yahoo.com">alan
wellentin</a> ; <a title="afkelly25@gmail.com" href="mailto:afkelly25@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:afkelly25@gmail.com">Arthur F. Kelly</a> ; <a title="BC3662@aol.com" href="mailto:BC3662@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:BC3662@aol.com">Bill Carder</a> ; <a title="gary@raystowing.com" href="mailto:gary@raystowing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gary@raystowing.com">Gary McClellan</a>
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</div><div><div class="yiv6005566383h5"><div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:21
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt/normal arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Classic Pattern</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Very cool
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<div class="yiv6005566383gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Raymond C. Gauthier
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">A
pic of the Dalotel is attached. Pretty cool
eh?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">__________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">I’m
hoping I have something old hanging in the garage that would fill the
bill. I know I have a scale French aerobatic airplane, a Dalotel,
which is the right size and pretty much in flyable (wet power)
condition. When I’m back in town I’ll have to dig it out and see how
it flies the Novice pattern.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">Ray<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;"> Patrick Harris
[mailto:<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com">harris7148@gmail.com</a>] <br clear="none"></span></div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Ray
Gauthier<br clear="none"></div><b>Cc:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob
Walker; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder;
Gary McClellan<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Classic Pattern<u></u><u></u>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Ray,<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Yes. By saying 60 size that pretty much limits you to pre
80's planes. Are we going to turn away a guy that walks up with a little
Osiris? The way it's written, no we wouldn't turn him away, but I think this
is going to be a non issue or infrequent if at all. . We need to keep this
real simple and have fun.<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Raymond C. Gauthier
<<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(148, 54, 52); font-family: "Arial", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">Does
no year restrictions mean any airplane that fits the size and power
guidelines?</span><u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Tahoma", "sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;"> Patrick Harris
[mailto:<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com">harris7148@gmail.com</a>] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February
19, 2014 11:47 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob
Walker; Ray Gauthier; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly;
Bill Carder; Gary McClellan<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Classic
Pattern</span><u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Just a quick update. I have had a few question from a
couple of CD's in regards to Classic pattern this year. The bottom line is
we do this is to have fun and we don't want to load this up with a bunch of
rules. <u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Long story short, here are the only criteria. Keep in
mind we will likely tweak this as we go:<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">No year restrictions<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">60 class planes or smaller<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">6 cell maximum for electrics<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">That's it. We will fly two schedules this year which are
Novice and Advanced which can be found here;<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.classicpatternassociation.com/uploads/CPA_call_card.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">http://www.classicpatternassociation.com/uploads/CPA_call_card.pdf</a><u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">At some of our contest we will fly classic Saturday and
Sunday in the mornings due to sun issues (Woodburn, Redmond). At fields like
Molalla that we can fly turnaround by 8:00, we will fly classic on Saturday
after turnaround and it's the discretion of the CD to fly classic on Sunday.
My guess is for those fields we will fly classic on Saturday only to get
guys on the road Sunday. <u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Also, Gordon has been at it again with a great new
feature on the D8 site. No longer will you have to search in vane for
upcoming events to preregister on the NSRCA calendar. All you will need to
do is click on the 2014 schedule on the D8 site and you will find an info
link and a link to the calendar for preregistration. By the way, it is a
great help to the CD"s and Gordon to preregister to all contest you plan to
attend. Again, my thanks to Gordon. Without him, we wouldn't be where we
are. <u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">If you have questions or concerns, email or give me a
call.<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div>
<div>
<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><a href="x-msg://1258/" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">503-454-0381</a><u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal">Pat<u></u><u></u></div></div>
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<div class="yiv6005566383MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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