<div dir="ltr">"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">as they flip and flap through 32 segments</span>" is that a technical term?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Patrick Harris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Cool....OK boys and girls I just hammered the gavel down....it's a done deal........for now.....until it's not.....or it rains and it's a leap year then we do something different. <img src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" goomoji="360" style="margin:0px 0.2ex;vertical-align:middle"><div>
<br></div><div>Thanks guys for all your help and input.</div><div><br></div><div>Now let's go fly.....I'm going to go iron on some Ultracoat.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Gordon Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gaa@owt.com" target="_blank">gaa@owt.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">oh, yeah.... AMEN!<div><br><div><div><div>On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Patrick Harris <<a href="mailto:harris7148@gmail.com" target="_blank">harris7148@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Gordon,<div><br></div><div>That's great info.</div><div><br></div><div>Long story short, my original criteria pretty much holds to what they are doing. </div>
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No year restrictions</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">60 class planes or smaller</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">6 cell maximum for electrics</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
Gary recommended adding Pipes and Retracts allowed.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Can I get an AMEN </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Gordon Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gaa@owt.com" target="_blank">gaa@owt.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Here is some input from Tony in D7 that may help:<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">Hi Gordon,</span><br style="font-size:14px"><br style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:14px">Mike forwarded to me your questions about Classic.</span><br style="font-size:14px">
<br style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:14px">In this region, we feel Classic is more about the old-style patterns then about technicalities regarding models. We have allowed pretty much anything, but would definitely frown on a 2-meter pattern model entering. But we have had 62" Osiris', Sequences, Elements, and the like enter. Models like the Venus or Venus II have flown. In the Pre-Novice and Novice it is much more about getting guys to do it. So we have allowed almost anything in those classes. In advanced there have been mostly "Classic" models. And in Masters all have been Classic.</span><br style="font-size:14px">
<br style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:14px">As to the exact definition of a "Classic" model, we have stayed away from doing much there. Same with engine/power systems. Since companies like O.S. don't even make a .61 anymore, we haven't made that distinction. As I said, much more about the flying then the models.</span><br style="font-size:14px">
<br style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:14px">I hope this helps! If you have any more questions feel free!</span><br style="font-size:14px"><br style="font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:14px">Tony Frackowiak</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div><div>On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, J N Hiller <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net" target="_blank">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</div><br></div>
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<div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Yes!<u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">Eliminating the year eliminates the need for certification or differences of opinion.<u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">I think there were several 120 designs such as the 2 plus 2 which were approximately a 2M airplane flying prior to TA. Maybe a NATS equipment list exists from about 1989. If I get bored tonight maybe I’ll look fore one.<u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><span style="color:navy"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial">I don’t know that I’d encourage the Option-120 although it certainly could have existed in the 80’s, it didn’t. However the 60 size Option-3, a simple fixed gear design did and it flew well with a muffler or piped 60 / 61 or 91 four stroke.<u></u><u></u></span></font></span></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b><span> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span> </span></span></b>Patrick Harris<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:08 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span> </span>AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b><span> </span>Gary McClellan; Ray Gauthier; Arthur F. Kelly; Rudy; Rick Bergeron<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Classic Pattern</span></font></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Jim,</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">That's pretty much in line with what Ray had to say, which is to limit it to "aircraft designed to fly pattern that were originally intended for glow engines. These same period aircraft can be currently powered by electric motors.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Is this in line with your thinking?</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">This eliminates the "year" issue.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Gary did bring up an issue with 120 sized planes like the Option 120. Although not truly classic, these type of planes were indeed used in pre turnaround were they not?</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Pat</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:59 PM, J N Hiller <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"></span></font></p><div link="blue" vlink="blue"><font color="navy" face="Arial">Pat I gave that some thought last night.</font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
<br></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 40.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Traditional classic / ballistic aircraft were GLOW POWER designs. There may be an electric power exception but very rare and specific.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 40.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">We were to restrict it to these period glow power designs ore electric conversions.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 40.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Just a thought!</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b><span> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of<span> </span></span></b>Patrick Harris<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:41 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span> </span>Gail & Robert Walker</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 40.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><b><font size="3" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span> </span>Gary McClellan; AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Ray Gauthier; Arthur F. Kelly; Rudy; Rick Bergeron<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Classic Pattern</font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:0.75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt">
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 76.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Bob,</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 76.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Under the laid out guide line, I would say Yes it would be OK, but the intent is to keep it to Old School. To me a 3D ARF of modern design does not fit the "Old School" criteria. This stuff isn't in stone so we can still adjust as we go. Any thoughts from everyone on how to write this is most appreciated. Like Jim, said we don't want to alienate anyone, but we do need some sort of guideline.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 76.8pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';border:none;padding:0in"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gail & Robert Walker <<a href="mailto:grbwii@comcast.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">grbwii@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial"> Just checking, but would that mean that I could use my electric Katanna(SP)? You say it fly at Dusters the other day. I would have to tone the throws down a bit, but it seems to fit your specs?</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 85.35pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Raymond C. Gauthier <<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font color="#943634" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(148,54,52)">I’m hoping I have something old hanging in the garage that would fill the bill. I know I have a scale French aerobatic airplane, a Dalotel, which is the right size and pretty much in flyable (wet power) condition. When I’m back in town I’ll have to dig it out and see how it flies the Novice pattern.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><b>Sent:</b><font><span> </span>Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:53 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span> </span>Ray Gauthier</font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Re: Classic Pattern</font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Yes. By saying 60 size that pretty much limits you to pre 80's planes. Are we going to turn away a guy that walks up with a little Osiris? The way it's written, no we wouldn't turn him away, but I think this is going to be a non issue or infrequent if at all. . We need to keep this real simple and have fun.</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Raymond C. Gauthier <<a href="mailto:rc.gauthier@comcast.net" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">rc.gauthier@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span> </span>Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:47 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span> </span>AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY; Brad Burden; Bob Walker; Ray Gauthier; Rudy; Rick Bergeron; alan wellentin; Arthur F. Kelly; Bill Carder; Gary McClellan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>Classic Pattern</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
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<font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Just a quick update. I have had a few question from a couple of CD's in regards to Classic pattern this year. The bottom line is we do this is to have fun and we don't want to load this up with a bunch of rules. </span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Long story short, here are the only criteria. Keep in mind we will likely tweak this as we go:</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">No year restrictions</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">That's it. We will fly two schedules this year which are Novice and Advanced which can be found here;</span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">At some of our contest we will fly classic Saturday and Sunday in the mornings due to sun issues (Woodburn, Redmond). At fields like Molalla that we can fly turnaround by 8:00, we will fly classic on Saturday after turnaround and it's the discretion of the CD to fly classic on Sunday. My guess is for those fields we will fly classic on Saturday only to get guys on the road Sunday. </span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 90.15pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Also, Gordon has been at it again with a great new feature on the D8 site. No longer will you have to search in vane for upcoming events to preregister on the NSRCA calendar. All you will need to do is click on the 2014 schedule on the D8 site and you will find an info link and a link to the calendar for preregistration. By the way, it is a great help to the CD"s and Gordon to preregister to all contest you plan to attend. Again, my thanks to Gordon. Without him, we wouldn't be where we are. </span></font><font><span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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