<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>After some pondering I've decided that I cannot take on this position at this time. My daughter has just recently become engaged which means my summer will be pretty hectic (and expensive !!). Also my job has becoming increasingly more time consuming (unfortunately). So I just don't feel like I can dedicate the time to take the D8 VP role on. Hopefully someone else will step forward and support this effort.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 20, 2011, at 12:20 PM, "J N Hiller" <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Jump right
in Tim. I had flown pattern about a year when I volunteered. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">The view
from the bottom is much more interesting and gives us seasoned pattern fliers
insight as to the kind of assistance needed. The answers are easy, it’s the questions
that are hard and some of us more seasoned fliers don't remember that far back.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle19"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Tim<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 20, 2011
11:11 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-dist8] D8 VP
Position</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks for
your kind words. If someone more qualified doesn't come forth by
the end of the year, then I will seriously consider the opportunity.<br>
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Sent from my iPad</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;
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On Nov 20, 2011, at 10:42 AM, <a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com"><a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">trexlesh@msn.com</a></a>
<<a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com"><a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">trexlesh@msn.com</a></a>> wrote:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: "Gordon Anderson" <<a href="mailto:gaa@owt.com"><a href="mailto:gaa@owt.com">gaa@owt.com</a></a>><br>
To: "AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org"><a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org</a></a>><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-dist8] D8 VP Position<br>
Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2011 10:21 am<br>
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Tim,</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Here are my thoughts on your points:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1.) I don't see this as an issue, you can
do a better job connecting with new pattern pilots than the experienced guys
can, the future is the new pilots and you are in a better position to attract
them. You can always get experienced guys to review your technical
contributions or write input for your articles. The other thing to remember is
a lot of guys talk like they know all the technical details but many are faking
it! Same thing happens at work every day.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2.) Everyone starts at the bottom and
advances, your a good pilot and have advanced a lot sense you started flying pattern.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">3.) You will learn the judging details and
a lot of judging is just paying attention, I think the number one issue is keep
your yes on the airplane, I have gotten away with a lot over the years!</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">4.) This is a problem, others will help. I
will for sure but you are right, it requires some time.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I truly don't see you as being any less
qualified than anyone else, besides you need to write an article about your
family operation, its pretty cool to see dad and the boys at the contests!</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Jump in, we will help you!</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">--Gordon</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Nov 18, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Tim wrote:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></p><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"></font><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman">I have several concerns about accepting the
responsibility of this position, but support from D8 pilots is certainly
not one of them. Never met a nicer bunch of people. I'm
worried about the following:</font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font><p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1) my very
limited knowledge about the tech side of the hobby (electricity is my achilles
heel; absolutely brain dead about this type of power).</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2) my
extremely limited flying skills (the stats speak for themselves. I'm the
worst pilot in D8).</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">3) do not
know much about the judging side of things</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">4) time
commitment (cannot make it to all the meets)</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Understand
that I can get help for some of these, but still these are fairly significant
concerns. I've always admired the knowledge that Gordon and Rex had on a
myriad of subjects. About all I can do if someone has a question is get
them in contact with a more experienced pilot. It would seem to me that
one of the more seasoned and knowledgeable pilots would be a more appropriate
choice for district VP. </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:32 PM, astropuppy <<a href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:astropuppy@gmail.com">astropuppy@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">>From
writing for Model Aviation I can say what Rex said "<span style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.917969)"></span></span></font><span class="apple-style-span"><b><font color="#222222" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:#222222;font-weight:bold">I think it would be
good to have someone that's not in Masters or FAI in the position.</span></font></b></span><span class="apple-style-span"><font color="#222222" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:
Arial;color:#222222">" is very true. Many, dare I
say, senior pattern pilots have told me the same thing. The group I
speak of understands talking about really expensive equipment or
their - well thought out - opinions does nothing to attract new people. I am
finding Pattern just needs to be it's own thing. We need to let other SIG's
do their thing and just concentrate on making pattern a enjoyable
activity, the rest will take care of itself in time.</span></font></span><font color="#222222" face="Arial"></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="#222222" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">I
could of never pulled off a Boise contest without the help and support of the
D8 contingent. Nobody has ever said No to me when I asked for help. We
are truly blessed to fly in the district we fly in.</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="#222222" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Mike</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:1.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:2.0in"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">On Thu, Nov
17, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Tim <<a href="mailto:tstebbins@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:tstebbins@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:tstebbins@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:tstebbins@gmail.com">tstebbins@gmail.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br style="mso-special-character:line-break">
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color:black">What are the responsibilities of a VP and what are the
qualifications required to be considered?<br>
<br>
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Rex <<a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com"></a><a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com"></a><a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com"><a href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">trexlesh@msn.com</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
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> Folks<br>
><br>
> My second term as D8 VP ends at the end of this year. By the rules,
a new VP has to replace me.<br>
> It's time to put someone else in this position. If you'd like to be
the next VP, by all means let us know.<br>
> We need to get this sorted out for the new year.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Rex Lesher<br>
> D8 VP<br>
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